From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 23 13:35:45 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LFEun-0001dc-7J for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:35:45 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LFEui-0001cx-PS for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:35:45 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2953565rvf.46 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:35:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4M0n0UV0Uz+reA+xiPr08PIj5iz6MH1Ui2Lh1GOPYkA=; b=jZX81GVVpfghVphikY7WiW1FR344hxzVT0TA87TFRTVLoPD7YhmXG/UI7Z1M2cIOWo 7UUwuSYagEDY2WINwElvai5NBlrhelyV0jPf1Ftrq3N5H2c5/KDMsO28K7NoUZKtubMV EoJxaUkGTl4bC3zuzErdHPVtTo0ZAjv5NU1n4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=QUOmknLM5Sy7Vfm4AkYevW0LqLfwK8m7FrngMVbn1HnfUs+s23tdsyYgUIzrcTtBV/ LX+Med/GB7T9AViWFhMYJEnhvs+P5b7e4DgpameMzg+mujt5X9oWC47XT53Tfr86iUd5 ++CoSM3MLpZD52StOJX+yNQng/WYiMvmu0CfM= Received: by 10.140.250.14 with SMTP id x14mr3908881rvh.278.1230068139758; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:35:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560812231335m57e39450wa1119b69e4358669@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:35:39 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: About the negators In-Reply-To: <70697fa40812231320p79ff4c9fs12cc07f912fe5760@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <70697fa40812152124u39a177a2hc52d604e9a30e469@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560812160558o380d40e8le1e6e6b766e26b14@mail.gmail.com> <70697fa40812231320p79ff4c9fs12cc07f912fe5760@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1107 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, J Y wrote: > > Thank you. But I meant , how do we say sentences like these : > > Not them will do the work tomorrow > They will do\ not the work tomorrow > They will do the work not tomorrow > Should i just put {na'e} before or after the sumti ? You can put {na'e bo} before the sumti: na'e bo tu ba zukte lo selgu'a ca lo bavlamdei tu ba zukte na'e bo lo selgu'a ca lo bavlamdei tu ba zukte lo selgu'a ca na'e bo lo bavlamdei But instead of {na'e bo lo selgu'a} and {na'e bo lo bavlamdei} you can just say {lo na'e selgu'a} and {lo na'e bavlamdei}. And instead of {zukte lo selgu'a}, just {gunka}, at least in the first and third cases: na'e bo tu ba gunka ca lo bavlamdei tu ba gunka ca lo na'e bavlamdei mu'o mi'e xorxes