From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 26 06:09:10 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LGDNG-0004ee-71 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:09:10 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.249]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LGDND-0004eI-JZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:09:10 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so4053803rvf.46 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:09:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=r97m5XqBT1+12l9T1Vfdo5wfNhnDAdycsdCN1ABVXU0=; b=PGa6r40wkeaHqemrB/k9LkmTH1Hcq7qhL2Rcnzc1DPME9UyH9hBxe26JtGBCDuJB38 42z4U97jZV4MaHOW97LgYVdphv/LYBNhkgjOukklSzYV7wTe18ekN+JNYUt5NHRlzro4 SQ8ZbiNKq0IqcpsEsBnz+erI0HCqRtP9Eq/vY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=BpTH2g6dqe67jEJXVWQPHyvRBUvsvCZLBICeIivB9Gg6jvqsN+mJM/qjJpXR8Oi4bI Vy2tdUGFJGOiaPGUJgX5N/4JEloRjOB6PNNSRp+QZN7F4urXaa78hLFh1+WsmMrdGzjP PtP0FWI2UuwZwNXam3oW+iWJYuKuFNF4wIkB4= Received: by 10.140.163.12 with SMTP id l12mr5306154rve.41.1230300546835; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:09:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560812260609n20f78991peba6d5836e7d27f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:09:06 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Complex Selbri In-Reply-To: <702226df0812252203m5bdcea2cr535ff26ab5ac8377@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49542F12.4040908@synx.us.to> <20081226012726.GC7051@sdf.lonestar.org> <702226df0812252203m5bdcea2cr535ff26ab5ac8377@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1114 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Jon Top Hat Jones wrote: > > What about the possession cmavo? I would think {lo pendo pe mi} or possibly > {lo pendo po mi} would be just as appropriate. There is a difference between {lo pendo be mi} and {lo pendo pe mi}. Suppose you are talking about your friends, and you tell me that one of them looks like me. I may then ask, {ma cmene lo pendo pe mi}. "What is the name of the friend associated with me?" I'm not asking about a friend of mine, from the context of the conversation I'm asking about one of your friends, the one that is somehow related to me (by the "looks like" relationship). {lo pendo pe mi} could refer to {lo pendo poi pendo mi}, but not necessarily. mu'o mi'e xorxes