From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 02 07:47:30 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LImFG-0005ZN-C8 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:47:30 -0800 Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LImF5-0005Xs-8Y for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:47:29 -0800 Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k40so4265932rnd.0 for ; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:47:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=489MlqBBuMacU/BqnrHNytvIxUF8lFYW3hgPOcECCOY=; b=VBI9Ks3zbjKeChn8ijTE6ufAAzG859cXrFpgyH4uOoraLBQaxA+erefrjXuwlSynRx LMmQHs5MrOAon9xifslCh5UunbF8E0lFyKgBlWJWWcanEHowrDybRBUyrU/e68ePHqId i/JK38nx0Rp7XBQdFqPRQVeUksCHuk7Ae6lME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Ks5Z8frlVFyIGwfuee36ANKiFZlc888pQMSrfKQm2Bdfy99c/QMWo5y73GaMmh4/pD MkvthSyMN+WiMNXXicCbvS3NKCdB8JUmBujWvsSaQFUHLS3g/PqtUEjHXMDRnbo/88A1 I4DYjOXzzUcRoCn5qHDarXwHUIJcksv+O6PQo= Received: by 10.150.218.10 with SMTP id q10mr8854128ybg.222.1230911237889; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.8.19 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:47:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5715b9300901020747s28c0d177ib421215aac0afcae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:47:17 -0500 From: "Luke Bergen" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] fa fe fi se te... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41512_9461363.1230911237879" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1135 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_41512_9461363.1230911237879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Which family takes precedence if both are in a sentence? FA or SE? eg. I talk to you about the book in lojban mi tavla do le cukta if I say: mi se tavla fi do le cukta what does this mean? I'm saying se tavla so x1 and x2 are switched, but now what is in the second position was originally x1 BUT I'm overriding that with "fi". So if I originally have: x1 selbri x2 x3 and then I do x1 se selbri fi x2 x3 Can someone explain what this would be equivilent to if we took the "se" and "fi" out? Or would something like this just be nonsensical? - Luke Bergen ------=_Part_41512_9461363.1230911237879 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Which family takes precedence if both are in a sentence?  FA or SE?
eg.
I talk to you about the book in lojban
mi tavla do le cukta

if I say:  mi se tavla fi do le cukta  what does this mean?

I'm saying se tavla so x1 and x2 are switched, but now what is in the second position was originally x1 BUT I'm overriding that with "fi".  So if I originally have: 
x1 selbri x2 x3   and then I do
x1 se selbri fi x2 x3    Can someone explain what this would be equivilent to if we took the "se" and "fi" out?

Or would something like this just be nonsensical?

- Luke Bergen
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