From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 14 09:19:03 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LN9OQ-00069M-VR for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:19:03 -0800 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LN9ON-000697-SJ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:19:02 -0800 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0EHIrQ2026806 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:18:53 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id n0EHIqia016335 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:18:52 GMT Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:18:52 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Spelling "Alan" in lojban? Message-ID: <20090114171849.GA15654@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <20090114154255.GS23891@sunflowerriver.org> <96f789a60901140750w7e57f830k426d2528280bb6d1@mail.gmail.com> <20090114161145.GT23891@sunflowerriver.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090114161145.GT23891@sunflowerriver.org> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1190 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 14 pi'e 01 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Alan Post .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > There doesn't seem to be a rising dipthong that gets any closer, > though "kiut" /keaut/ is in the same class. From the Phonology > chapter in What is Lojban?[1], there seem to be a fair number of > potential rising dipthongs that aren't listed (.e.g., ea, eu.) Does > that chapter list all the actual rising dipthongs in lojban, or are > there more introduced later? .skamyxatra Those are all the diphthongs. The set of Lojban phonemes is intentionally limited so that people of any native tongue can learn it easily. Also, there's no need to capitalize the "A" in "alyn." By default, emphasis is placed on the second-to-last syllable, not the last, and syllables whose vowel is "y" or which use syllabic consonants are not counted for this purpose. Thus, "a" is the only syllable in "alyn." that can be emphasized without any explicit indication otherwise. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ko jundi mi na.e lo selsku be mi