From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 14 22:02:34 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LNLJK-0006FU-38 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:02:34 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LNLJE-0006FM-Ro for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:02:34 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so984691rvf.46 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:02:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=du2BJXNG/Yi9PQt/uaVzx1uu5uqHtar0xqTeFuEDByA=; b=Ce3h0gCTWAmLVzGId+I9HTAUnw/wI+5kIN2sHF0jYPuP3+WqLbeIV7p/7hMkc2iDT4 eLMzaPGYeq1SFxXKi3ClpZ+1Gw9Z1oyUQvNupjcGzpu2H7FPvHQlqvIgGBaMfejLWpZE dlOFPoSwb2GM8K4x9+A/Rbg0I1T+eEfc+jrpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Kbft8fWoUoCkV9WE5OgXm5YMOfABtiS9RxstXZZtNVcVUCOoZGWUOtDdTSf65JgMuk Ms0qYWCkToNfjvzWe67BEae2NVA3yGnajw7aw+i6NfsodQ+Tu80mKdU6w2XG/KVPY1kr mRXe17NiOJH9DhzOpUbqXw7y00lwEyTxEF6qI= Received: by 10.143.37.20 with SMTP id p20mr359025wfj.51.1231999347986; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.186.19 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:02:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <702226df0901142202h349d17d4t45c10330a0b43855@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:02:27 +1800 From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Spelling "Alan" in lojban? In-Reply-To: <20090114154255.GS23891@sunflowerriver.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_390872_2998102.1231999347983" References: <20090114154255.GS23891@sunflowerriver.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1194 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_390872_2998102.1231999347983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Alan Post < terminal-keyword-lojban.416ddb@c0redump.org> wrote: > [I appologize if you see this twice, I'm not certain it properly > sent the first time.] > > I am reading through the level0 brochure, and I think I have > gathered enough information to spell my first name (Alan) in > lojban. > > Given that cmene cannot have the word "la" in it[1], and reading > over the pronunciation guide[2], I think the closest spelling and > pronunciation in Lojban of "Alan" is "Alyn.". > If you chose to go by the "Dot Side" proposal, {la} is permissable within cmene, so you could be {.alan.}. Also, all words in Lojban are stressed penultimately, i.e., on the second-to-last syllable, unless otherwise indicated, usually by capitalizing the vowel of the syllable that should be stressed. > > This accounts for the stress of the first syllable instead of the > last, and sounds about right when I pronounce it: "/AH,luhn/" > > How did I do? Is there a closer approximation? > > Thank you! > > -Alyn. > > -- > [1]: http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/morphol.html > [2]: http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/phonol.html > > > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu ------=_Part_390872_2998102.1231999347983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Alan Post <terminal-keyword-lojban.416ddb@c0redump.org> wrote:
[I appologize if you see this twice, I'm not certain it properly
sent the first time.]

I am reading through the level0 brochure, and I think I have
gathered enough information to spell my first name (Alan) in
lojban.

Given that cmene cannot have the word "la" in it[1], and reading
over the pronunciation guide[2], I think the closest spelling and
pronunciation in Lojban of "Alan" is "Alyn.".

If you chose to go by the "Dot Side" proposal, {la} is permissable within cmene, so you could be {.alan.}. Also, all words in Lojban are stressed penultimately, i.e., on the second-to-last syllable, unless otherwise indicated, usually by capitalizing the vowel of the syllable that should be stressed.

This accounts for the stress of the first syllable instead of the
last, and sounds about right when I pronounce it: "/AH,luhn/"

How did I do?  Is there a closer approximation?

Thank you!

-Alyn.

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[1]: http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/morphol.html
[2]: http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/phonol.html






--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
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