From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 18 17:45:14 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOjCU-0007m1-7Y for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:45:14 -0800 Received: from mail-gx0-f17.google.com ([209.85.217.17]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOjCQ-0007lQ-20 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:45:14 -0800 Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so1865263gxk.10 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:45:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=d1jn9Sofdg3pADdSupOIB70WpjnXkLKFbMlEuGMBuQY=; b=DmlH4IBIuHW0SYDYHA9kXzAQQfAGtlNKfGlaVYQZYowBC4UbqVVYBATjov1iMUs+b5 hU6HTpkde635uikC/XPvLtsR0E7JrIsJ5gUdXH/jJJr13s+84DRvMXaG3QGP5omNJGEc gJWDn49pzxzCExbe2YLeLSHKUcpMPsT6WRrOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gZm1qzQn/oU0SiknHCskgZ/bLHv7ufw32H5PsAjrYqYYCnsUBQlvfFoH9cNW8rN1VT X6Hs1l7QJw8EEjmhWA0+HpQZrLs0ylKarTnGIpJtP8NXmN0hfV2fu4oElL0NAuOQP9nK yaT3FEv5bkdV2tD3JXa39EQlqd5FSFFaBO7Xs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.101.20 with SMTP id d20mr4810674ybm.39.1232329504006; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:45:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:45:03 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300901181745u56b49054x9c01719af38b9c34@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] grand mother From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750eeba5521140460cc12f5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1223 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --00151750eeba5521140460cc12f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I noticed in a lojban dictionary file (I forget where I found it) that there is a word "mampa'u" for maternal grand father. This makes sense but can such a lujvo exist for grand mothers? For grandfathers you could have pafpa'u and mampa'u but there is no rafsi for "mother" that ends in a vowel so can it be done without having the much longer sounding pafmamta. And in the case of maternal grand mother the situation is even worse since you can't double consonants (eg mammamta). How should maternal grand mothers be called? - Luke Bergen --00151750eeba5521140460cc12f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I noticed in a lojban dictionary file (I forget where I found it) that t= here is a word "mampa'u" for maternal grand father.  Thi= s makes sense but can such a lujvo exist for grand mothers?  For grand= fathers you could have pafpa'u and mampa'u but there is no rafsi fo= r "mother" that ends in a vowel so can it be done without having = the much longer sounding pafmamta.  And in the case of maternal grand = mother the situation is even worse since you can't double consonants (e= g mammamta).  How should maternal grand mothers be called?

- Luke Bergen
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