From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jan 18 18:14:11 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOjeV-00016T-FD for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:14:11 -0800 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LOjeS-00016M-Q0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:14:11 -0800 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so1057725ywm.46 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:14:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JI92vIl2TLWag80caxgbmhioxKaMD5crude5UAjS0iU=; b=IhvrBThEyxX/BCFlt4cON9b/tJpwRWnyRFT/JRDkA3R7+VrkqU6WDUDHbCMcBM/z+C r2P3wlYHyr2PMDVK+4F47h4mT5lI7x6YjT1jknSQaKXJYoWKPRG5Q/6ADh1WF+DLpwlL f6sPa2QP2ZOcf9/ozICyLee6I1LA5Ql4Rz5LI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cocdzh9H0dew4o/IGrUaSVvbKVwuyVmMKfxBlVfiw4328COeXq5aqoWk8dyng8fDTv OljxG/UrTyG5UPSH7IAtC+cA4V6x57veBH385WlJPzDmADY0/zD7Hes/fmmYdD/0QDUw ocmStsv9KJPN5r5CahpdcLUz0KENz27j7odB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.225.14 with SMTP id x14mr5495873ybg.137.1232331247819; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:14:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090119015600.GA20344@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5715b9300901181745u56b49054x9c01719af38b9c34@mail.gmail.com> <20090119015600.GA20344@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:14:07 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300901181814k60a7c231n6dd316122f1327d7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: grand mother From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cd76459eb80460cc7a31 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1226 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --000e0cd4cd76459eb80460cc7a31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what a mouth-full. So what would be the closest lojban equivalent to "granny". I can't see a kid of 4 or 5 running up and saying "coi lo mamymamta" :) It is fun verbally spelling it out though (like spelling out Mississippi). - Luke Bergen On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 18 pi'e 01 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. > > For grandfathers you could have pafpa'u and mampa'u but there is no rafsi > for > > "mother" that ends in a vowel so can it be done without having the much > > longer sounding pafmamta. > .skamyxatra > > No. > > > And in the case of maternal grand mother the situation is even worse > since > > you can't double consonants (eg mammamta). > > A "y" is inserted wherever a double consonant would otherwise occur in > {lujvo} > formation; hence, "{mamymamta}." > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > le do cizra notci cu kairgau mi lo nalselcme kamte'a > > > > --000e0cd4cd76459eb80460cc7a31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what a mouth-full.  So what would be the closest lojban equivalent to = "granny".  I can't see a kid of 4 or 5 running up and sa= ying "coi lo mamymamta" :)  It is fun verbally spelling it o= ut though (like spelling out Mississippi).

- Luke Bergen


On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Minimis= cience <min= imiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 18 pi'e 01 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusk= u zoi skamyxatra.
> For grandfathers you could have pafpa'u and = mampa'u but there is no rafsi for
> "mother" that ends in a vowel so can it be done without havi= ng the much
> longer sounding pafmamta.
.skamyxatra

No.

> And in the case of maternal grand mother the situation is even worse s= ince
> you can't double consonants (eg mammamta).

A "y" is inserted wherever a double consonant would otherwi= se occur in {lujvo}
formation; hence, "{mamymamta}."

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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le do cizra notci cu kairgau mi lo nalselcme kamte'a




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