From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 21 01:07:16 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPZ3L-0000pd-PV for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:07:16 -0800 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPZ3G-0000p6-Du for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:07:14 -0800 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id z23so163389fkz.2 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:07:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YKUV/s2PiABk3pZUrDHnjtgXFWeehxciOmzk2d37jPc=; b=oKaDDpNA25pTMrAmXPgtFtnhLLFmDsMgvlDE5pqrySeXiSKU1c6Naoi/xSYi/wyb9F Oy38Yck+amgnpMrvy0nXUXiTDYSQs30fJ0spqKRF8q/JjL0TU4V3ymUMNmM0dCf/DvEg +k1Z8v2amzN7c0n3RkMbmTd6NQ1qxeFGr8EEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VAtdIz5B6G2eOaEGBkyNV/HKPDOXqO66A7wd2W6xpLJSugpbxjBYvO+e1AV0Z4QIZ0 oyf++aeBe/8UhP8/N6JNR39/7WwyVjXfwfel8etvp8u/17VYl78ZfvNwJJbg8990V71u TEMkgv9m9H8lhsf0n6viL3r/OA8A+GUHe/KYQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.4 with SMTP id l4mr2441540fap.47.1232528829123; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:07:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300901201425n2c2176f5l81d30f30b791bc3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300901181745u56b49054x9c01719af38b9c34@mail.gmail.com> <20090119015600.GA20344@sdf.lonestar.org> <5715b9300901181814k60a7c231n6dd316122f1327d7@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60901201347y97d3973x998a25b28fd08b24@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300901201351q1776be1ewcee6d7418e7a41ee@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300901201425n2c2176f5l81d30f30b791bc3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:07:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: grand mother From: Brett Williams To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1257 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > so... what is the difference between a cmene and a cmevla? A cmene is a name. "Brett Williams" is a cmene, as is "se ckiku", though neither one has any cmevla in it. A cmevla is a category of Lojban word. They're the only words in Lojban that end in consonants. So you can use a cmevla as a cmene, just as you can use a brivla as a selbri, but you can also use a brivla for a cmene, if you have a selbri cmene. :) mu'o mi'e la se ckiku (to selbri cmene toi) no'u la selkik (to cmevla cmene toi)