From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 21 05:24:41 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPd4T-0004mD-MV for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:24:41 -0800 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPd4R-0004m3-45 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:24:41 -0800 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so4009514wfa.25 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:24:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TSdtooEqmyfU3wvYEOq4jdzrnjG/OtKu0SRqtLo7zIY=; b=F1GCyWXjuD6NOw1QZarZ+SMcJ+k3qlHmJE4Pv2q8QRHTIv8tEM9duKfcLf9xJmJaJE PU1j6w4GsaeBrWaw3QbWWL0T2faw/iWvr86QFOEgv0jOpQAR1Jz5OSWA+qDuEqTyd4h1 5D8YSduvD5FTNtCqCA51OIqlCBHpO9W8k2Pm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qeZ71tnTjPaopzn42L+1fQrrCV75K0Nqrnw2lYdZQNxV0QLRdka+WqvOTswcHavd4r yxT5dBjPL4wHzwX08uAdvH8SXKOLH02FvYkEwrTt6jBmt3AdwP8E75LjkinhjhqjLtFD zrHA6c10xSry0fzcxNKzVFgnteyFfRC1PVTV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.173.14 with SMTP id v14mr125565wfe.245.1232544278312; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:24:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17560901190935xb23ae7cu46931f6bac6df90@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090113001704.GA13721@sdf.lonestar.org> <96f789a60901161156n3a6c44a7uab29eb6340a55f4e@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560901161253j4cef5b0fp115cb914307d0b64@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60901190859v469fa043ic9f1b122182a9c3f@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560901190935xb23ae7cu46931f6bac6df90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:24:38 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a60901210524j6f56059ex143ac9f28401a80e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: xelfanva From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e334e0f7e40460fe1334 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1260 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --000e0cd2e334e0f7e40460fe1334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > "h" is y'ybu, not xy (although online jbofi'e doesn't like y'y in the > > begining of a cmevla. can anyone tell me why??) > > The apostrophe is only used to separate two vowels, so it is allowed > neither at the beginning nor at the end of a word, nor next to a > consonant. I'm not sure there is a why other than that's how it was > defined. (That's by the way why the corresponding lerfu is y'y and not > just 'y.) > I'm sorry. You misunderstood me. I'm not asking why the character known as y'y isn't allowed at the beginning of a word. I'm asking why the litera= l string "y'y" isn't liked by jbofi'e (e.g y'ybutymylyl) --gejyspa --000e0cd2e334e0f7e40460fe1334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM,= Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> = wrote:
>  "h" is y'ybu, not xy (although online jbofi'e = doesn't like y'y in the
> begining of a cmevla.  can anyone tell me why??)

The apostrophe is only used to separate two vowels, so it is allowed<= br> neither at the beginning nor at the end of a word, nor next to a
consonant. I'm not sure there is a why other than that's how it was=
defined. (That's by the way why the corresponding lerfu is y'y and = not
just 'y.)
 <= /div>

  I'm sorry.  You misunderstood me.  I= 9;m not asking why the character known as y'y isn't allowed at the = beginning of a word.  I'm asking why the literal string "y= 9;y" isn't liked by jbofi'e  (e.g y'ybutymylyl)

            = ;  --gejyspa

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