From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 21 05:41:06 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPdKM-0005w2-1H for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:41:06 -0800 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LPdKJ-0005vK-18 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:41:05 -0800 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so4015640wfa.25 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:41:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sr6MTRzreHnX9qaR5uRCpC8uU3eeaCb8fJlBBmymsX4=; b=JpkLwlRh6U1VdBuz6JQkqLtxVYITJk3MdtRgdGAnMYwVC1GlOx+raqVjabCu1N/AnQ nxcNH1TZzpiNtLNiFJlpsdmjNtomxWT9+8gV2QJYI5gIk6WNFLt9O99DCXsunJ9l1ofG VptmmwIayBtt90XSF+z97awWZ44/CA1RJMrwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=h1uJareDmP7NK0wRk5EsByT5Y5S4mylhrg91fqiKTYnMV90EAPNvQFJKHcHb0MzAmR uUwZrhVV+ta9AcbPb5tgy1cjCZTvD0bj9vxG+O2qjlipKqJbywzkhcopk4s2xrsOvPgw NERTi4XjeJqibpVjS9VOpgymxhxT2nlTI6/+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.10.15 with SMTP id n15mr3374180wfi.319.1232545262002; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:41:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:41:01 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a60901210541l1b6552c5i5986a3f0900c09a7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: xelfanva From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e90eea82e3b80460fe4ede X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1263 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --001636e90eea82e3b80460fe4ede Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:31 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 2009-01-21 08:26:34 Eastern Standard Time, > mturniansky@gmail.com writes: > > > I'm asking why the literal string "y'y" isn't liked by jbofi'e (e.g > y'ybutymylyl) > > > > jbofi'e takes "y'y" just fine. It's beginning the cmevla with "y'y" that > seems to be the problem. > > mi'e stevon > mu'o Which was my original quesiton, repeated both in both xorxes, and my response to him, and reproduced for a fourth time down below:. Why don't people read? oicairo'a On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > "h" is y'ybu, not xy (although online jbofi'e doesn't like y'y in the > > begining of a cmevla. can anyone tell me why??) > > The apostrophe is only used to separate two vowels, so it is allowed > neither at the beginning nor at the end of a word, nor next to a > consonant. I'm not sure there is a why other than that's how it was > defined. (That's by the way why the corresponding lerfu is y'y and not > just 'y.) > --001636e90eea82e3b80460fe4ede Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:31 AM, <MorphemeAdd= ict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
In a = message dated 2009-01-21 08:26:34 Eastern Standard Time, mturniansky@gmail.com writes:


I'm asking= why the literal string "y'y" isn't liked by jbofi'e =  (e.g y'ybutymylyl)


jbofi'e takes "y'y" just fine.  It's beginni= ng the cmevla with "y'y" that seems to be the problem.

mi'e stevon
mu'o
  Which was my original quesiton, repeated b= oth in both xorxes, and my response to him, and reproduced for a fourth tim= e down below:.  Why don't people read?  oicairo'a

=
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@= gmail.com> wrote:
>  "h" is y'ybu, not xy (although online jbofi'e = doesn't like y'y in the
> begining of a cmevla.  can anyone tell me why??)

The apostrophe is only used to separate two vowels, so it is allowed<= br> neither at the beginning nor at the end of a word, nor next to a
consonant. I'm not sure there is a why other than that's how it was=
defined. (That's by the way why the corresponding lerfu is y'y and = not
just 'y.)


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