From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Feb 17 08:31:21 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LZSqv-0003df-3u for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:31:21 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LZSqr-0003ch-8N for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:31:21 -0800 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090217163101.WBIF18810.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:31:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E5CC28 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:31:00 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pronunciation problems with jy and cy Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:30:55 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5715b9300902170759v530ee49pc0a9fc420ec5ebe6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5715b9300902170759v530ee49pc0a9fc420ec5ebe6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902171130.57469.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1344 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tuesday 17 February 2009 10:59:47 Luke Bergen wrote: > does anyone else find that words with jy and cy in them are tricky to > pronounce in such a way that the two letters sound different from one > another? > > For instance, jarco. For some reason when I pronounce this it sounds like > there is very little difference between the two sounds. Does anyone else > find themselves sometimes having a hard time with this? mi na go'i .i ma verclibau do? .i .e'u troci tu'a le bacrynandu po'u lu cire cilce carce jarco ce'e reci cilce carce cu jarco .i cire cilce carce jarco cu jarco reci cilce carce .ije'i reci cilce carce cu se jarco cire cilce carce jarco? li'u mu'omi'e .pier.