From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Mar 05 06:15:29 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfEMD-0005cc-Cw for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:15:29 -0800 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.148]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfEMB-0005cM-2j for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:15:29 -0800 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so2860310qwa.58 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:15:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GxJlcdeYS9Ry5lGkxUemsmWHYenzmIvBTAk7vk0Rdeg=; b=tB6Fp8Lg1okv1+2WZjgIDl3PmGTFvjfqydfxqq5XmeBvUZCLAVRYwStqYV12fQtdDy WnKLkLP51pqmZbmBqbUOU5OWsqFcnHYpCWjxt8PqgLj1/dBspeUlXXJIYRdc8uVpwJMs gkHvGQFp8OkRmmoTw1dnlqTKsi8nXhAIcOCe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=I76GjWnK9f/OSxu9za46Aqzhjd+A5zNyVq66voRpXTRSmQYufYVYoPXOFxkYTOIIZT AVzJlFrosV+aeA3LhlBuBS6EoKFadErzNJaOKAj2oCXw/uOlp2n/onDzYJUDJ9rLezzw 4SUKimwc1tvn6WSg1Mucm7mkdKI4H3Apn01D8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.1 with SMTP id f1mr665669qcn.103.1236262523263; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:15:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300903050615o2b121b4j3d872ca6545d1da@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] difference between di'o and tu'i From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364270d28cb58d04645fcc09 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1392 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016364270d28cb58d04645fcc09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Based on the lojban dictionary I don't quite get the subtle difference between di'o and tu'i. Can anyone expound on this for me? di'o BAI at the locus of diklo modal, 1st place at the locus of ... tu'i BAI associated with site stuzi modal, 1st place (used to situate letters) associated with site ... ; label with location It seems like they are similar but I don't really know what the exact definition of "locus" is anyway so maybe they're completely different. If you wanted to say "where is John?" would you use di'o, tu'i, or something completely different? - Luke Bergen --0016364270d28cb58d04645fcc09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Based on the lojban dictionary I don't quite get the subtle difference = between di'o and tu'i.=A0 Can anyone expound on this for me?
di'o=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 BAI=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 at the locus of=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 diklo modal= , 1st place=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 at the locus of ...
tu'i=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 BAI=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 associated with site=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 stuzi modal, 1st place = (used to situate letters)=A0 associated with site ... ; label with location=

It seems like they are similar but I don't really= know what the exact definition of "locus" is anyway so maybe the= y're completely different.

If you wanted to say "where is John?" would you use di'o,= tu'i, or something completely different?

- Luke Bergen
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