From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Mar 05 09:07:11 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfH2N-0004TI-IZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:07:11 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfH2G-0004RV-Bg for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:07:11 -0800 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090305170656.SDXX7442.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:06:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0598A615C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:06:55 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: difference between di'o and tu'i Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:06:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5715b9300903050615o2b121b4j3d872ca6545d1da@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160903050757v392fb65di29e53199c3ac3414@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300903050808k7891af9bt51170da8df68c75d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5715b9300903050808k7891af9bt51170da8df68c75d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903051206.52257.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1395 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thursday 05 March 2009 11:08:40 Luke Bergen wrote: > ahh, thank you. So for instance, "where is the bathroom" might be "ma tu'i > lo vimku'a" while "where is the book" would probably be "ma se di'o lo > cukta". Am I right? Neither of those sentences has a predicate. They mean "What at the bathroom" and "What in the book's area", or something like that. I'd say "lo .arpitano cu diklo la .aostas. lo stici rontu'a" but "la kurmaier. se stuzi la .aostas." Arpitan is a language, and moves around with its speakers, but Courmayeur is a town, and can't move around. ("arpitano" has the same place structure as "fraso", and can also refer to Arpitan people or anything else Arpitan.) Pierre