From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Mar 10 19:59:25 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LhEfF-0001LL-GI for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:59:25 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LhEfC-0001KK-9w for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:59:25 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090311025907.CQGT12344.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:59:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A4E2DA0 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:59:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vreta Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:59:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5715b9300903101354n1f06bcfbmc485a82c5b8b25df@mail.gmail.com> <20090310221726.GA13218@sdf.lonestar.org> In-Reply-To: <20090310221726.GA13218@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903102259.04249.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1411 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tuesday 10 March 2009 18:17:28 Minimiscience wrote: > The problem is that, in English, the present participle of a verb (the form > used, among other places, in the progressive form, e.g., "Zoe is ____ing") > is the same as the gerund (the form used in a noun phrase corresponding to > Lojban "{nu}"). A few centuries ago, they weren't: the participle ended in "-ind". In German they end in "-end" and "-ung". Pierre