From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 16 19:58:25 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjPVY-0003z8-IR for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:58:25 -0700 Received: from imo-m13.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.101] helo=imo-m13.mail.aol.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LjPVS-0003yh-Rk for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:58:24 -0700 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id d.cde.44c24962 (42805) for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:57:48 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:57:50 EDT Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Preliminary chapter 1 for Lojban learners To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cde.44c24962.36f06bae_boundary" X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1432 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --part1_cde.44c24962.36f06bae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Besides the unnecessary sentence-final periods and the misleading, if not wrong, use of "joi", which have already been commented on, the names themselves are sometimes not very good choices. Unusual stress in names is marked by using capitalized forms of the stressed vowel or stressed syllable. The names in the lesson that this affects are: .afrikas. > .Afrikas. portugal. > pOrtugal. or PORtugal. napolis. > nApolis. or NApolis. bylin. > bylIn. or byLIN. Since apostrophes (y'y bu) may not be used between consonants and in any case do not indicate stress, mad'rid. should be madrId. or maDRID. I would use lijboan. or lijbo,an. instead of lijbo'an., but it's not technically wrong. I would also mark a final stress of paris. and marseil.: parIs./paRIS., marsEIl./marSEIL.; otherwise they are strongly stressed on the penultimate syllable. I would also not use Lojban forms that deviate too far from the standard native written form, especially in cases such as lyndyn. and byLIN, for which I would use london. and berLIN, but this is my personal preference. stevo --part1_cde.44c24962.36f06bae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Besides the u= nnecessary sentence-final periods and the misleading, if not wrong, use of "= joi", which have already been commented on, the names themselves are sometim= es not very good choices.  
Unusual stress in names is marked by using capitalized forms of the stre= ssed vowel or stressed syllable.  The names in the lesson that this aff= ects are:
.afrikas. > .Afrikas.
portugal. > pOrtugal.  or  PORtugal.
napolis. > nApolis.  or  NApolis.
bylin. > bylIn.  or  byLIN.

Since apostrophes (y'y bu) may not be used between consonants and in any= case do not indicate stress, mad'rid.  should be madrId.  or &nbs= p;maDRID.

I would use lijboan.  or  lijbo,an. instead of  lijbo'an.= , but it's not technically wrong.

I would also mark a final stress of paris. and marseil.: parIs./paRIS.,=20= marsEIl./marSEIL.; otherwise they are strongly stressed on the penultimate s= yllable.

I would also not use Lojban forms that deviate too far from the standard= native written form, especially in cases such as lyndyn. and byLIN, for whi= ch I would use london. and berLIN, but this is my personal preference.  = ;

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