From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 02 05:05:06 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LpLfO-00071N-6c for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:05:06 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LpLfL-000711-Ro for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:05:06 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so351349yxn.46 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:05:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VYDru/o6s6Z/juqUDp1QOVbGOwPqW/RQedc05MRUhh4=; b=qQVHMRYeOgIgEiAg7MUXR1sk6b4kGtmV+G514gFMGPioj5I1ZG1PH+5vj640oKP28S Xtg6JrFi79hBoa8LY9gt8WEKD8188oTkNmE198NpJ1kp1BBXrnqQ8HWna3g33Sue00iG UpeU65X3o72EKbaP0rVY9FtqtPe7s129Vt+TE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W0uYwQGN410XJ+SgLbRkCXP8FpbiW7b8jI043eoPTzDNKbrgvspH8FvqeRvWtSfYqk O4kN2v72OXd7l3XB3yOB0aHjg9bKnyPUyxVPzTl9IZWD03Xr/RWUUDcqyRfbr7iUxDLA GJhkkzppRaHDryZX3kHboe14KO/KQRGjub+Us= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.228.2 with SMTP id a2mr45489ybh.15.1238673902904; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:05:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904012327.37440.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <5715b9300903312101y8a22955vc5b7bed6e52e9ae6@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300904010902o467aa98fv958a70256f3bf49@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60904011037i2b487956h3e250f57765d70e4@mail.gmail.com> <200904012327.37440.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:05:02 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60904020505r20b8a21dh432c114d3d6973b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la'e di'u From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1470 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 01 April 2009 13:37:58 Michael Turniansky wrote: >>  la jon na zanfri lo nu rokci cpare (or "cpare lo rokci" to be more >> precise) .iku'i jy  (NOT "la jy". "jy" is already a sumti by itself, >> "J") zukte lo se go'i > > You could also say ".iku'i ra zukte ri" (unless "ri" would refer to "ra", in > which case "ra zukte ra"). If you had said "lo nu cpare lo rokci", that might > be interpreted as ".iku'i la jon. zukte lo rokci", which doesn't make sense, > so then you'd try "lo nu cpare lo rokci" as the referent. > > "zukte", btw, means "does on purpose". "gasnu" is better, I think. I'm sorry. You think someone would climb rocks accidentally??? zukte is what I meant. --gejyspa