From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 09 15:00:57 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ls2Ir-0001T8-P5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:00:57 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ls2Io-0001Sv-LH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:00:57 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n39M0bei004918 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:00:37 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n39M0ZPA003623 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:00:35 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:00:35 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: T shirt Message-ID: <20090409220034.GA23522@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <4de8c3930904091430x2a84270fqc7b16becf2dfb0df@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930904091430x2a84270fqc7b16becf2dfb0df@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: de'i li 09 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I'm thinking of a word for "T shirt". > > ty + bu + creka = tybusycreka > > Maybe malglico, but is this at least a valid lujvo? .skamyxatra [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 1486 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 09 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I'm thinking of a word for "T shirt". > > ty + bu + creka = tybusycreka > > Maybe malglico, but is this at least a valid lujvo? .skamyxatra No. "{ty.}" does not have any {rafsi}, and it cannot be used as a {rafsi} for itself. In addition, according to the CLL, "{ty. bu}" is actually the name for thorn, not T, which would be plain "{ty.}." The proper way to make this {lujvo} is with "{zei}": "{ty. zei creka}." I'm not really sure what would be a good, non-{malglico} translation of "T-shirt," though; the best I can come up with is "{torcreka}." mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- li'a .e'i ca vondei .i mi na'e pu'i kufra loi vondei