From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 10 14:40:15 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsOSN-0002aW-EG for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:40:15 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsOSJ-0002ZR-Uq for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:40:15 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090410214005.NZLD6222.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@chausie> for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24759A5A2 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:40:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lujvo into fu'ivla Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:40:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <4de8c3930904101055m53888421l643e2e9e268898b3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930904101055m53888421l643e2e9e268898b3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904101740.01504.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Friday 10 April 2009 13:55:55 tijlan wrote: > A lujvo for "motorcycle" would most likely be > > matryrelxilma'e > > But it sometimes sounds too long for me to use around. So, as an > experiment, I created a fu'ivla out of it: > > trxlma'e > > The idea is basically to 1) omit the vowels from the seltau(-ish) > part, 2) remove any impermissible initial consonant pairs or other > clusters, 3) remove any repeating letters for the sake of simplicity, > 4) and adapt it to a valid fu'ivla form > (http://www.lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Exhaustive+list+of+short+fu >%27ivla+forms) if necessary. My example went like this: > > 0) matryrelxilma'e > 1) mtrrlxlmaX-archive-position: 1494 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Friday 10 April 2009 13:55:55 tijlan wrote: > A lujvo for "motorcycle" would most likely be > > matryrelxilma'e > > But it sometimes sounds too long for me to use around. So, as an > experiment, I created a fu'ivla out of it: > > trxlma'e > > The idea is basically to 1) omit the vowels from the seltau(-ish) > part, 2) remove any impermissible initial consonant pairs or other > clusters, 3) remove any repeating letters for the sake of simplicity, > 4) and adapt it to a valid fu'ivla form > (http://www.lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Exhaustive+list+of+short+fu >%27ivla+forms) if necessary. My example went like this: > > 0) matryrelxilma'e > 1) mtrrlxlma'e > 2) trlxlma'e > 3) trxlma'e > 4) trxlma'e (no adaptation required) > > What do you think about it? I suggest "atrilma'e" instead. "trilma'e" is a slinku'i, so "atrilma'e" is valid. Pierre