From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 10 15:47:20 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsPVI-00087S-7f for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:47:20 -0700 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsPVE-000877-Qz for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:47:20 -0700 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (unknown [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:2a0:c9ff:feab:76e2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C79957DA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:26:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id n3AIQow2022367 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:26:50 +0200 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id n3AIQn1Z022366 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:26:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:26:49 +0200 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: T shirt Message-ID: <20090410182649.GF14088@nvg.org> References: <4de8c3930904091430x2a84270fqc7b16becf2dfb0df@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930904091430x2a84270fqc7b16becf2dfb0df@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:30:04PM +0200, tijlan wrote: > I'm thinking of a word for "T shirt". > > ty + bu + creka = tybusycreka > > Maybe malglico, but is this at least a valid lujvo? No, a necessary criterion of a valid lujvo is that it only consists of valid rafsi and "hyphens" (ie. y/r/n/l where it is mandated by the rules). Not all cmavo have rafsi, and this includes {ty}. So you can't have {ty} in a "proper" lujvo. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP URI: Uses a dotted-decimal IP addX-archive-position: 1498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:30:04PM +0200, tijlan wrote: > I'm thinking of a word for "T shirt". > > ty + bu + creka = tybusycreka > > Maybe malglico, but is this at least a valid lujvo? No, a necessary criterion of a valid lujvo is that it only consists of valid rafsi and "hyphens" (ie. y/r/n/l where it is mandated by the rules). Not all cmavo have rafsi, and this includes {ty}. So you can't have {ty} in a "proper" lujvo. But there is hope! There is a cmavo, {zei} which can be used to combine any series of words into a lujvo. So {ty} + {creka} would yield: ty. zei creka See CLL chapter 4 section 6: http://jbotcan.org/cllc/c4/s6.html (Unavailable at the time of writing, but Google has it cached: http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:DajSLjJkyj4J:jbotcan.org/cllc/c4/s6.html) -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Assumption is the mother of all screw-ups. (Wethern's Law)