From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Apr 15 12:45:46 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuB3K-0007lZ-Ms for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:45:46 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.147]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuB3G-0007l8-UB for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:45:46 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so55230qwj.58 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:45:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rQUCHDdj9yyaj4rwoYj4Dah+TVRYF38rmGcX80Mkx8Y=; b=ctp1ZIEqMMJrqyeXwtKzNIcQqw7uZK4wGIAe69jxvKiA6xYXBmE3+lgDCNm1moKdYT Wh3Huwjfgivuksx9osNCV+upusoOWGBe532LnfD+OTVdVjy8uIAZNgqWypJokj+Bdj8b mnwCn51RWbbXmLRRaL9v/KO/esBsGCgMSNa68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aFRIRcTP2+KpWnBBcOf7m6rZF45zmkpPocgpKACqCKNbYC3Etdu3W0cB+aV1LfSugB ulL3TvNmg+Y0RQSxZ86uX+vdEN5OflSAxJMqU6PdWLzHBJ+sAkwn9dOWCzL8+9LdD609 yj4OxV4IUMLFXBCNpAAM27iO7Qw0rZPf9UJ20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.86.129 with SMTP id s1mr127501vcl.109.1239824741496; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:45:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904151450.57591.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <5715b9300904151111o1377c880j1c9b6714250873f2@mail.gmail.com> <200904151450.57591.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:45:41 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300904151245o20b8e6d8wbf2890b43d030a26@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: why won't jbofi'e parse this? 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I was using http://www.lojban.org/jboski/ I think I like the CLL method mentioned by minimiscience: dydyryr Thanks everyone. - Luke Bergen On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 15 April 2009 14:11:25 Luke Bergen wrote: > > So, I was going to do a twitter update of: > > .aisai mi ba kelci la dy dy ry ja'e lo nu mi ba kanro > > which I think is something like "determination I'm going to play DDR to > get > > healthy" > > > > But in checking it against jbofi'e first I find that it won't parse. If > I > > replace "dy dy ry" with another valid cmene it doesn't complain. But I > > thought that "la" can take spaces like "la nicte cadzu" and "dy" and "ry" > > are valid lojban words are they not? > > > > I'm confused about what this won't parse. > > "la" expects a following string of cmevla or selbri. "dy dy ry" is > neither. "me dy dy ry" is a selbri, so "la me dy dy ry" is valid. "dy dy > ry" > is also a valid sumti, so you could say "mi kelci dy dy ry". > > > Furthermore, it seems flukey about it, most of the time it just says > > "jbofi'e says" and then nothing. Ocassionally (using the exact same > > string) it will say: > > > > -------------------- > > SYNTAX ERROR IN TEXT > > -------------------- > > Misparsed token : > > lo [LE] (line 1, col 37) > > Latest successfully parsed tokens : > > ja'e [BAI] (line 1, col 32) > > MARKER : PRIVATE_START_BAI > > ry [BY2] (line 1, col 29) > > dy [BY2] (line 1, col 26) > > dy [BY2] (line 1, col 23) > > la [LA] (line 1, col 20) > > kelci [BRIVLA] (line 1, col 14) > > ba [PU] (line 1, col 11) > > -------------------- > > > > which I can't quite figure out. > > > > Anyone have any ideas on this one? > > What says "jbofi'e says"? I get the same error you do, but without "jbofi'e > says". What version of jbofi'e do you have? Did you install it with apt-get > (or aptitude or any front end to it) or compile from source? > > I run "ldd `which jbofihe`" and get this: > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7d80000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ee7000) > What do you get? > > Pierre > > > > --0016e64e9bf44cf95c04679d317b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh, I didn't realize that it was an app to download.=A0 I was using http://www.lojban.org/jboski/
I think I like the CLL method mentioned by minimiscience: dydyryr
=
Thanks everyone.

- Luke Bergen


On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Pierre = Abbat <phma@phma= .optus.nu> wrote:
On Wednesday 15 April 2009 14:11:25 Luke Bergen wrote: > So, I was going to do a twitter update of:
> .aisai mi ba kelci la dy dy ry ja'e lo nu mi ba kanro
> which I think is something like "determination I'm going to p= lay DDR to get
> healthy"
>
> But in checking it against jbofi'e first I find that it won't = parse. =A0If I
> replace "dy dy ry" with another valid cmene it doesn't c= omplain. =A0But I
> thought that "la" can take spaces like "la nicte cadzu&= quot; and "dy" and "ry"
> are valid lojban words are they not?
>
> I'm confused about what this won't parse.

"la" expects a following string of cmevla or selbri. "= dy dy ry" is
neither. "me dy dy ry" is a selbri, so "la me dy dy ry"= is valid. "dy dy ry"
is also a valid sumti, so you could say "mi kelci dy dy ry".

> Furthermore, it seems flukey about it, most of the time it just says > "jbofi'e says" and then nothing. =A0Ocassionally (using = the exact same
> string) it will say:
>
> --------------------
> SYNTAX ERROR IN TEXT
> --------------------
> Misparsed token :
> =A0 lo [LE] (line 1, col 37)
> Latest successfully parsed tokens :
> =A0 ja'e [BAI] (line 1, col 32)
> =A0 MARKER : PRIVATE_START_BAI
> =A0 ry [BY2] (line 1, col 29)
> =A0 dy [BY2] (line 1, col 26)
> =A0 dy [BY2] (line 1, col 23)
> =A0 la [LA] (line 1, col 20)
> =A0 kelci [BRIVLA] (line 1, col 14)
> =A0 ba [PU] (line 1, col 11)
> --------------------
>
> which I can't quite figure out.
>
> Anyone have any ideas on this one?

What says "jbofi'e says"? I get the same error you do, = but without "jbofi'e
says". What version of jbofi'e do you have? Did you install it wit= h apt-get
(or aptitude or any front end to it) or compile from source?

I run "ldd `which jbofihe`" and get this:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0linux-gate.so.1 =3D> =A0(0xffffe000)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7d80000)=
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ee7000)
What do you get?

Pierre




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