From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 17 14:25:15 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuvYh-00005E-Np for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:25:15 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuvYe-0008WV-H2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:25:15 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so268929qwc.58 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jTe/yfBd99SNrUQaGBe5MaOmXmizR1wJWX4eRjsrkK8=; b=iNu0ZYLSO+H5UqN1taM7o6BmW5/PDVyRoWjj22/iq8ev9giaPMdCzDyyl0k1BxS3DF tSed8fJFh1pKAwo0rWnSyM6+D8DITJNqYRy1HZGzD9XqMqZFKrPFc+vo+8HTSsRsNr8E NMfwC7TkyunIS511t1yUVBoVVxNpTeGVu5FQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AvsbWzArAFjahMi7Hzb671VQDoigd+wpbm3oJ5EtVIyer8kbYZr2/88yJUDJ3YeTSi Ol5qRcOGr2glYlPgA20FyynHAihosB3WGA3/TJYmVvUNBCsQG3qBA1FEBn4O9UrJsNDj 53eXWeXuoV6QrZ1XEbNX/qtT24NSzzx0MVZx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.73.194 with SMTP id r2mr3662446vcj.76.1240003509355; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:25:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49E8F2FB.2080602@perpetuum-immobile.de> References: <4de8c3930904170755t415ec77byc42e8417e7764b3f@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930904171149r2605f6d1y8030807c705b4570@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300904171210i49d03792ta0cf8df85507c4a9@mail.gmail.com> <200904171520.30798.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560904171231n6f93a608vf7869d1aa5483aae@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300904171357q73cd885bl5a3e40d04c523277@mail.gmail.com> <49E8F2FB.2080602@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:25:09 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300904171425y5308e06dla2fd0c33542b09bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: du & mintu From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363107b3b3eeb00467c6d00c X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: which would mean: "probably chan and en (interesting names) are indeed the same in at least some way but not in every other way". If you've used "da" earlier does "ro de" have "da" as part of that? Is "da" included in "ro de"? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-archive-position: 1550 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016363107b3b3eeb00467c6d00c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable which would mean: "probably chan and en (interesting names) are indeed the same in at least some way but not in every other way". If you've used "da" earlier does "ro de" have "da" as part of that? Is "da= " included in "ro de"? - Luke Bergen On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Timo Paulssen < timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote: > Luke Bergen wrote: > > 2009/4/17 Jorge Llamb=EDas > > > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > >>> la tcan. dunli la .en. le ka jgina .i la tcan. na du la .en .i xu la > >> tcan. > >>> mintu la .en? > >> .i la'a la .tcan. la .en. cu ja'a mintu su'o da gi'e ku'i na mintu ro = de > >> > >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > "probably chan and en are indeed the same by standard at least one > something > > and however not the same as everything". > > > > I'm confused with your bridi. Where am I mis-translating? > > > I believe he meant to say {fi ro de} or {zo'e ro de}. > > mu'o mi'e timos > > --0016363107b3b3eeb00467c6d00c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable which would mean: "probably chan and en (interesting names) are indeed= the same in at least some way but not in every other way".

If = you've used "da" earlier does "ro de" have "da= " as part of that?=A0 Is "da" included in "ro de"?=

- Luke Bergen


On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Timo Pa= ulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
Luke Bergen wrote:
> 2009/4/17 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>>> la tcan. dunli la .en. le ka jgina .i la tcan. na du la .en .i= xu la
>> tcan.
>>> mintu la .en?
>> .i la'a la .tcan. la .en. cu ja'a mintu su'o da gi'= ;e ku'i na mintu ro de
>>
>> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
> "probably chan and en are indeed the same= by standard at least one something
> and however not the same as everything".
>
> I'm confused with your bridi. =A0Where am I mis-translating?


I believe he meant to say {fi ro de} or {zo'e ro de}.

mu'o mi'e timos


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