From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 28 05:57:08 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lyms0-0001CG-2r for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:57:08 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lymrs-0001Bp-3j for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:57:07 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 36so329600yxh.46 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=713/963x5xDW7DQiNLyOgNEdxZhf202rsQAIGTcBAH4=; b=LJYB/L75DCAYYYQbus3SLiesZtHiz5tJVIHuUogFPdjCTsoG1zzTM6GyyCixAi6iZH 5ZE0q44riwxpps2RnXYKxcUDgQSxvWciVN5Yakv7ujNGSQ+EHV1SAB5/mWwQMb5EcxbG ZgFQCRF+HNEMFN6KPRN/8HZV1cvAnnInHbqz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W5AmFTeK6oa2m0XD6gk3+ErP64F3wBoih/c3Cf2vyLXULw3wpz9fz3sq/eHqihsskD Y67iWPxjeed5/MUlJjy2MO3GEudZfv2Oi0PTArCSJI0oEuvUIJbjzAVUPmqZm1AEMF1m Uuw+DvVu4NalKsgyp/PhuuFQtFSPKXVb1f+4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.96.10 with SMTP id t10mr10229614anb.70.1240923418980; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:56:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300904270952r767995edma02dd270d77df628@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300904270718p4fa3bad7madde950c8456d74@mail.gmail.com> <49F5DA29.3080302@perpetuum-immobile.de> <5715b9300904270952r767995edma02dd270d77df628@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:56:58 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560904280556g25f02132m744e0cf2611a96cd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: let's talk about sex From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 1588 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >   In general do we just have two > words for when the verb-like aspect of an idea is used and for when the > mode-like aspect of an idea is used?  i.e gletu v. cinse? I'm not sure gletu and cinse are two aspects of the same idea. gletu is a relationship between two people (or two animals). Perhaps being cinse is necessary for them to gletu (is asexual copulation possible?), but someone can be cinse and never gletu. cinse is much more general than gletu. One can be cinse in the way one moves, talks, dresses, etc, it's not just about copulating. mu'o mi'e xorxes