From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 28 06:20:10 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LynEH-00045p-Ji for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:20:09 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LynE6-00042H-L9 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:20:06 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so413070qwc.58 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aLYD5f4gmQZHwgkrRAEV3Ao9zO2SUIqYiIYIgqFvUts=; b=LCef1poHxWoVWM2UWAftlaOj6WpoM4WUDVsO5flfa8KVvL2kzmkTzkM/2wWV+QGubm UmJI+bPC5bferZaoBbKU0adlZgIaaAbLSN9kK+u8El7nXCaZL4ooiIiT5Vx9BApRsxhX xY6Gz2EaQUXeLKQUEV/B2slAxF/on6BoyshWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P4vdClSYknbGOfX/8OgRY7aC7iZAJkORJhdHCdI7O9jumtX2eGoj3MW/n/xHvL4twy 4LIWEEXtTw1VNkMAQXgvOx3joa1izxnGiwTi2uo7ZBwc+wqRyDB80vhLgztRbHnX739T aE82N0ilL5k3m6SoBiKPvl9EEHrOkm/FPstEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.100.20 with SMTP id w20mr3568369qcn.24.1240924797274; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:19:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17560904280556g25f02132m744e0cf2611a96cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300904270718p4fa3bad7madde950c8456d74@mail.gmail.com> <49F5DA29.3080302@perpetuum-immobile.de> <5715b9300904270952r767995edma02dd270d77df628@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560904280556g25f02132m744e0cf2611a96cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:19:57 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300904280619g18463a18m5f77be227294448a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: let's talk about sex From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed5debc0d6f04689d5103 X-archive-position: 1589 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016364ed5debc0d6f04689d5103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh, I see. So is there a word for "physical", "emotional" other than the way it is used by ro'o/ro'i? Or can one use ro'_ to say that "that was an [emotional/physical/social] action" i.e. "that action was performed based o= n [emotion/physicallity/sociality]"? - Luke Bergen 2009/4/28 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > In general do we just have two > > words for when the verb-like aspect of an idea is used and for when the > > mode-like aspect of an idea is used? i.e gletu v. cinse? > > I'm not sure gletu and cinse are two aspects of the same idea. gletu > is a relationship between two people (or two animals). Perhaps being > cinse is necessary for them to gletu (is asexual copulation > possible?), but someone can be cinse and never gletu. cinse is much > more general than gletu. One can be cinse in the way one moves, talks, > dresses, etc, it's not just about copulating. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > --0016364ed5debc0d6f04689d5103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh, I see.=A0 So is there a word for "physical", "emotional= " other than the way it is used by ro'o/ro'i?=A0 Or can one us= e ro'_ to say that "that was an [emotional/physical/social] action= " i.e. "that action was performed based on [emotion/physicallity/= sociality]"?

- Luke Bergen


2009/4/28 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t;
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0 In general do we just have two
> words for when the verb-like aspect of an idea is used and for when th= e
> mode-like aspect of an idea is used?=A0 i.e gletu v. cinse?

I'm not sure gletu and cinse are two aspects of the same idea. gl= etu
is a relationship between two people (or two animals). Perhaps being
cinse is necessary for them to gletu (is asexual copulation
possible?), but someone can be cinse and never gletu. cinse is much
more general than gletu. One can be cinse in the way one moves, talks,
dresses, etc, it's not just about copulating.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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