From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 30 06:53:56 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LzWi3-0008GF-IZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:53:56 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LzWhy-0008Fd-5c for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:53:55 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3UDrjP2025882 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:53:46 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n3UDrjwa026497 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:53:45 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:53:44 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: UI + UI Message-ID: <20090430135344.GA12798@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <4de8c3930904300230x2285cd3ao71e978698d5b4a15@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930904300230x2285cd3ao71e978698d5b4a15@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 1594 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 30 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > The syntax for attitudinals seems to be: > > [ UI1/UI2/UI3/COI | NAI | CAI | NAI | UI4/UI5 | NAI | CAI | NAI | ... ] > > (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) .skamyxatra I don't know where you're getting that from. That syntax doesn't even make any sense (it seems that someone doesn't know what '|' means), and COI is a free modifier, not an indicator or attitudinal. According to the Yacc & BNF grammars in the CLL, an indicator (superset of attitudinal) is: (UI | CAI) [NAI] | Y | DAhO | FUhO > Based on that, I might interpret > > .ue ro'o .ui ro'i > > as > > [ UI1 | - | - | - | UI4 | - | - | - ] + [ UI1 | - | - | - | UI4 | - | - | - ] > > But what about > > .ue .ui ro'i They're just UI + UI + UI + UI and UI + UI + UI. The only grouping of attitudinals & indicators that takes place is that UI and CAI absorb following NAIs, and then a series of one or more indicators is reduced into a single token. Sub-{selma'o} are semantic divisions only and have no effect on parsing. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- li'a .e'i ca vondei .i mi na'e pu'i kufra loi vondei