From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 30 08:11:19 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LzXux-0006C5-I8 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:19 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f165.google.com ([209.85.219.165]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LzXuu-0006Bl-Dq for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:19 -0700 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1742659ewy.34 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lIWn0cM7mP8nodvMB+dda9LLqEv4AEub1UdN1o/EjB0=; b=kV9XHd2AGzuEM6L9qT50QCi7QUuBEri1C6pGxs+kTJM1rgp6gM6XtHOreSNXkU+E3D S6UfwQIvfy2tX3BGB3qAv0n7EfIaECeTumIlB31Qbo94nH27MLlA+CefB/OtGpab5HE/ 5MIg8Og+W3Dh4oYlbMLuhcmsa5CB8IFnjf000= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=uDLZG7gUNT/Tc5YPrQy+zZ4Iei6v7CvyNKrCAbQlqreJbviRj7tRfI/eSHS36anyMD BqQEg9eqHqSxjcailOC2wCKv1Fnv/ncdKNrOkvY1kvxkhwgfd7I3A51IdJsC7kASjvig XPHQfi8Wd/afd2fRAwg4kcSi+8RFkDYfc2er8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.7.141 with SMTP id 13mr539444wep.24.1241104269461; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090430135344.GA12798@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <4de8c3930904300230x2285cd3ao71e978698d5b4a15@mail.gmail.com> <20090430135344.GA12798@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:11:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 11221c26b86e19f6 Message-ID: <4de8c3930904300811v633e93f0m9101236c1e67e9bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: UI + UI From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 1595 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/4/30 Minimiscience : > de'i li 30 pi'e 04 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. tijlan .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. >> The syntax for attitudinals seems to be: >> >>  [ UI1/UI2/UI3/COI | NAI | CAI | NAI | UI4/UI5 | NAI | CAI | NAI | ... ] >> >> (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) > .skamyxatra > > I don't know where you're getting that from. CLL 13:8 > Thus, the complete internal grammar of UI is as follows, with each listed part optionally present or absent without affecting grammaticality, though it obviously would affect meaning. attitudinal ``nai'' intensity-word ``nai'' modifier ``nai'' intensity-word ``nai'' (possibly repeated) < > COI is a free modifier, not an indicator or attitudinal. CLL 13:14 > The vocatives actually are indicators --- in fact, discursives --- but the need to tie them to names and other descriptions of listeners requires them to be separated from selma'o UI. < mu'o mi'e tijlan