From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon May 04 16:22:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 04 May 2009 16:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M17UC-00012V-EK for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 16:22:12 -0700 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.150]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M17U6-000124-Vb for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 May 2009 16:22:12 -0700 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 13so862798eye.58 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 16:22:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4whtA0tUYUkGywmn9QZ61FVpT0ek+H9GAotCkHiC+3Q=; b=IDRZBv5OVSY8RRZxdHgCFqEXyGwDbdC0+nk2d/daoZ3pU1I2wlJGUhJsQpkikMquaH 8f9+34qeOYcYdx3nsnfiXJMYldiemgyG1kdDw2BqUQzQ3uRzVgR46fYFidvN0Q6o3Hld k3duYX/wr1t/dLSLq0FqyieVKrlApFys5CrTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N8CSR/uPWoPKmHu6W8E9uq5VWGdmF2AlYwzOon9TUyMYAwEdZyArArPJxjmCmIBvlY vVn2RvGy7sOqwNxumiOeDbq9RyixHmF3oOq/bPcXeYAWZiKWJ949ONv4hbUnA4y9eVnz RRvi1K9Mh485cWuWEY1urlPiafsM1JHFImfHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.79.3 with SMTP id c3mr6916972ebb.41.1241479325627; Mon, 04 May 2009 16:22:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930905041356u296cf5ahbc9f6f474427066d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930905041356u296cf5ahbc9f6f474427066d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:22:05 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560905041622s39a84a8cm43e3fe7f27be1b3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: fu'ivla, lebvla, le'avla From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1625 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, tijlan wrote: > In the word list, "le'avla" is used to explain such words as "na'u" > and "klerafsi". There is also "lebvla", as in "gimlebvla". "lebvla" > itself is defined as "loan word", which is what "fu'ivla" supposedly > means too. > > Do they really have the same meaning? If so, which one of them is more > preferable? "fu'ivla" is the preferred form. "le'avla" was the original coinage, but it was thought to be a it malglico, since the lender language doesn't really lose the ability to keep using its word, as "lebna" would suggest. mu'o mi'e xorxes