From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 03 05:40:14 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MBplO-0001fd-0X for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:40:14 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MBplE-0001d0-Kf for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:40:13 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090603123957670.WLOM14139@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:39:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7941A11 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: li'o broda ca brode Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:39:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <4de8c3930906030052v7bbf5fb8na9273e533be5dc4e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930906030052v7bbf5fb8na9273e533be5dc4e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906030839.50751.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 1752 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wednesday 03 June 2009 03:52:35 tijlan wrote: > In "da poi broda ca brode", is "ca" part of the poi clause or of the > main selbri ("brode")? According to jbofi'e it's part of the poi clause. To make it part of the main clause, you can add "vau" after "broda" or "cu" before "ca". To see how something parses, you can run "jbofihe -t", which gives output like this: | | +-CMAVO : da [KOhA1] | | | +-CMAVO : poi [NOI] | | | | +-BRIVLA : broda | | | | +-CMAVO : ca [PU] | | | +-BRIDI_TAIL_3 | | +-FULL_RELATIVE_CLAUSE | +-SUMTI_5 | +-BRIVLA : brode +-NO_CU_SENTENCE CHUNKS Pierre