From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 04 02:32:44 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MC9JU-000063-Hw for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:32:44 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f219.google.com ([209.85.220.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MC9JO-00005I-NB for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:32:44 -0700 Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so526122fxm.34 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:32:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xposLXrD91r3Wu8PT2+XKnkJz2Lb23rKEwVddkcmEMQ=; b=jhDGgMKO3HuaebnDoNGzi80XJSho3s18PPGCQIBTM/tEanBNlH4xGBzelGWVlo5Tg/ lkio4jiHqYi+MALgqOQqWtRSkG87NfbAb0y8bIdQIxeU0fzHEXGYa7s7qKUozr4z5DNC ag/VZVGebud0G27Yf8o4o2taQUEDC2QWxFjgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MXeiRBNl9pygg/8cHALQbst0OgKsg5z3HHKhB/93/HEsM0h0vwTFLs/tf1MU+o+cGd j+evO7+zd/flp2L6VcQKc9JfTCoZO/khvxpR/s0lpHofg94IjXhHtOlHDH++acp/SCFE sze69SPVaBUG4lpSuNbUfBaQzhljvpXVsXg20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.174.18 with SMTP id b18mr1168617mup.128.1244107951919; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:32:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:32:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7a573036bf7f6907 Message-ID: <4de8c3930906040232m42c29639l8e5885bfe0b2aedd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: being From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1762 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/6/4 : > In a message dated 6/3/2009 22:05:54 Eastern Daylight Time, zuwiki@gmail.com > writes: > > > "do ca cladu" means "You are loud in the present." I don't know whether it > implies that your loudness is temporary. > Mike Zink > > > > > "do ca'a cladu" But that seems to point more to the actuality of what the speaker perceives than to the current & temporary nature of "do"'s behaviour. "do ca'a cladu" might more imply "Aha, so you are actually a loud person just like everybody else told me" than "Hey, you are being loud, that's not like you". mu'o mi'e tijlan