From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 04 09:36:07 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MCFvD-0007O1-C1 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:36:07 -0700 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MCFv5-0007M6-PY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:36:06 -0700 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a27f7dc297; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:35:40 -0400 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id d.cae.464ea568 (30739) for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:35:36 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:35:36 EDT Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: being To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cae.464ea568.375951d8_boundary" X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-archive-position: 1771 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --part1_cae.464ea568.375951d8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/4/2009 05:34:46 Eastern Daylight Time, jbotijlan@gmail.com writes: > But that seems to point more to the actuality of what the speaker > perceives than to the current & temporary nature of "do"'s behaviour. > "do ca'a cladu" might more imply "Aha, so you are actually a loud > person just like everybody else told me" than "Hey, you are being > loud, that's not like you". > It seems like you're using a different meaning for "ca'a", something like "has the true nature of" rather than "is doing/being right now", which implies nothing beyond the present moment. stevo --part1_cae.464ea568.375951d8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a messag= e dated 6/4/2009 05:34:46 Eastern Daylight Time, jbotijlan@gmail.com write= s:


But that seems to point= more to the actuality of what the speaker
perceives than to the current & temporary nature of "do"'s behavio= ur.
"do ca'a cladu" might more imply "Aha, so you are actually a loud
person just like everybody else told me" than "Hey, you are being
loud, that's not like you".


It seems like you're using a different meaning for "ca'a", something= like "has the true nature of" rather than "is doing/being right now", whi= ch implies nothing beyond the present moment.

stevo --part1_cae.464ea568.375951d8_boundary--