From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 10 05:52:50 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MENIP-0005Fs-V4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:52:50 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com ([209.85.217.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MENIK-0005EZ-1L for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:52:49 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so2685237gxk.10 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:52:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+S7oedh4FJ9peScS1DFQHIwbN0BhkKt6BOXI/8rRiio=; b=v9iYIHsj46nm3dlMZqAJxoVW4Ixk3DFziYQ/CA5m/hGoLdFkyOqslCFjAQzQVUHp1Z TrDq1r+KZFv6sP2Tp2l49fE93f0Nwl4QUmvTrF0Vjgh8+HutafrsrAw33lXw8Cc58jdi kQ5hdo+JTMkaaC+EE/M3OFCa5YISputH3MzBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rcdY8lqw+z3X11WEweqXn0+XUjbOBPPnd2FZosLb2dksroaDNySceS5a0wB2y1/Kn7 pkTpLnXvgj0f7axbS81ir+v5xRJ2160iNz5Urj1BWciuaOIdJYrIxc4CR1iQ79i1sESk V6yM03cwUGCbNN0nVZpFD4/Zdjw0USQliPBBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.96.1 with SMTP id t1mr1104637agb.43.1244638357517; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:52:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930906100103y3e2a30efo9b02067d522f74b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906080850i28870a74r5d71a40d4d030924@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906081007q4521505ds28e5a9a5f379c4e6@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930906091424n7803df0ay84ef17a85de13449@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906091827p12a6ed31q5fba406df1991e6d@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300906092121u5b8718eeid04021a756f6a35a@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930906100103y3e2a30efo9b02067d522f74b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:52:37 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560906100552w6c054a98j527647ccbe22fa13@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo za'u jo'u zo me'i From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1805 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:03 AM, tijlan wrote: > > JA can connect tags too. "mi pu je ca klaku" and "mi bai ja mu'i seju > ca'a je ri'a farlu" are grammatical. But not "mi pu ku je ca klaku", > maybe because "pu ku" implies a sumti, which cannot be connected by > JA. I'm not sure, however, since jbofi'e doesn't allow "mi pu ku .a ca > ku klaku" either. Right, because "pu ku" is not a sumti, it's a term. A sumti is a term, but not all terms are sumti. In addition to sumti, other kinds of terms are "FA sumti", "tag sumti", "tag KU" and "NA KU", The connective for terms (and termsets) is "pe'e je", so "mi pu ku pe'e ja ca ku klaku" should work. mu'o mi'e xorxes