From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 12 08:56:32 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MF97H-00051K-Q4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:56:32 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MF97E-00050q-38 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:56:31 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so8667673ywm.46 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:56:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e5Ag7Lix7jgdmoT8lSj2VI/dcBkS0liodNZlqlasC1c=; b=Wf/nZbVvF/oLNdptTWUX+U1CGhMe8GtmXUTZkW+i2K2NldkHmIbzENcIXgmIbGrY28 UDeynSo630ygbrfVOfw3NyYcwUDz12f1IpTuWbwcWLRJ/qpXkAvzDT9+JFIKjp2eluc1 jW7QBMjwRcK9BxzwIgWlQlTpPQgyPlsA57Oag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n77+SLJ7RoAQ3R8nk1PLSsML9Md1SEew5hoJlleew5uWBvY3ox6LvwfIe6POX6gnYo BifdSg0Bc3Sr9QqNuIfDWowQ6P+1XrLmXkDtx1y5Ndz4h6hxNFNf0XRcRZFaBZjz/au+ cZYwP0/dFNVWDZ7RCm8/i5UAQ1KJW2VU2+1g4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.99.3 with SMTP id w3mr410951agb.62.1244822186845; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:56:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96f789a60906120736y41064cb9s8fadb7b79730af47@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3930906080850i28870a74r5d71a40d4d030924@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906081007q4521505ds28e5a9a5f379c4e6@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930906091424n7803df0ay84ef17a85de13449@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906091827p12a6ed31q5fba406df1991e6d@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300906092121u5b8718eeid04021a756f6a35a@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930906100103y3e2a30efo9b02067d522f74b3@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560906100552w6c054a98j527647ccbe22fa13@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60906120736y41064cb9s8fadb7b79730af47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:56:26 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560906120856k61db5c01s38a44a499c46a8eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo za'u jo'u zo me'i From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 1831 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > >  Really!  I didn't know pe'e had uses outside of per se  termsets. > Neither chapter 20 nor chapter 14 mentions it. Example 11.4 in Chapter 20 implicitly shows it by using a single-term termset: 11.4) mi pe'e ja do ce'e le zarci cu klama le briju I [joint] or you to-the market [plus] go to/from-the office. > So I could say "mi > ta'e tavla fi la lojban pe'e ja fo la lojban" and  "mi pu  sisku tu'a > do bu'u le ckule pe'e jenai ti'u li pavo pi'e no" ?  Neat.  (Still > can't say "mi ta'e tavla fi ??? fo la lojban", though). It wouldn't be hard to tweak the grammar to accept "fi ja fo". I don't know why it wasn't done given that tags, which are similar in many respects to FAs, can be connected with jeks. mu'o mi'e xorxes