From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 16 20:20:04 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MGlgx-000101-V7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:20:04 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MGlgu-0000wI-Gr for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:20:03 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090617031953506.FLSO26718@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:19:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503D1315F for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:19:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: shidgerrrrrkari Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:19:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <4de8c3930906160630h4717fbddq12165f0be8329a27@mail.gmail.com> <200906161144.44198.phma@phma.optus.nu> <71550650906161528j104eb647jabb29748f3da5e1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <71550650906161528j104eb647jabb29748f3da5e1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906162319.49754.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 1844 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tuesday 16 June 2009 18:28:50 Yoav Nir wrote: > Interesting, because I can't pronounce it syllabic. > It comes out like shi-djer-ka-ri I meant I can't say it as "cid,jrka,ri". There are a few Russian words which begin with difficult consonant clusters. I can say "mgla" (darkness) with or without syllabic "m", but if I don't make the "m" syllabic, it's hard to hear. If it's preceded by a vowel, as in "vo mgle", I say "vom gle". "lgun" (liar) I can say so that you know it's not "lagoon", but I invariably make the "l" syllabic. Pierre