From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 20 05:03:00 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MHzHf-0008Rp-E4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:02:59 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com ([209.85.219.223]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MHzHa-0008OV-8x for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:02:58 -0700 Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so273504ewy.34 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ADxTwfTZbHke1JWRhHb4vHDvnsdY56lxqa5JYVkGJU8=; b=WjfmmPwi35xAiuW0xViJ8XDs5weHf7r7lKEHSkyFlE9NKk1vFYiae6JFvP7/VBfzWd vIMtIoVZl7fUIrsR/tQptE6t2lgbuvHeQFoOIw89pqDHunTJ8J32LSHkDVtEm3yX1IyJ OhQRwcoVB4wGQ+X4X3r1ldjoFuPcsvB+5Gb/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=I3pcnc3Snb++5GREQzco0qi65PUKC9lJF7PmPqv4MmxA83P/hPtelPgTaBZ8DOyQmq +s5CwvIYAXNd1u4wewtgbHIrjvS8IEujUHc7GO+XWHbg4AnoYnaBadI7k8ikFVRo2DR8 j7c3BJxjfQxBnwTxP7TYhC/g2OkCnjpxIygrs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.86.1 with SMTP id j1mr4505297ebb.29.1245499367955; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:02:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Syllables From: Johan Pretorius To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174beb18651eda046cc66b90 X-archive-position: 1856 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pretoriusjf@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0015174beb18651eda046cc66b90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all I just got to wondering what is the deciding factor for splitting words into syllables? On page 22 of *.i la lojban. mo*, about halfway through the section on brivla, is an explanation that reads: The consonant cluster rule has the qualification that the letter y is > totally ignored, even if it splits a consonant cluster. Thus lobypei/LOBE,uh,pay/ is a > *brivla* even though the y separates the bp cluster. Yet there is also a rule that claims brivla are penultemately stressed. Surely then, it should be */lobe,UH,pay/*, not */LOBE,uh,pay/*? Cheers! Johan --0015174beb18651eda046cc66b90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all

I just got to wondering what is the deciding factor for split= ting words into syllables?=A0 On page 22 of .i la lojban. mo, about = halfway through the section on brivla, is an explanation that reads:
The consonant clu= ster rule has the qualification that the letter y is totally ignored, even if it splits a consonant cluster. Thus lobypei<= /tt> /LOBE,uh,pay/ is a b= rivla even though the y separates= the bp cluster.

=A0Yet there is also a rule that claims brivla are penultemately s= tressed.=A0 Surely then, it should be /lobe,UH,pay/, not /LOBE,uh= ,pay/?

Cheers!
Johan
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