From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 23 08:13:23 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MJ7gZ-0007b4-Ha for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:13:23 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.221.179]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MJ7gO-0007ZK-7Y for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:13:23 -0700 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so179808qyk.28 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=PEkWY2Ag+JMJeKBjR+dGxq4U5Zzb4CYn6kcguQioL1A=; b=CAH+umUFJO2w9ImFzR/ob/j8Wj0eFINusSl8uJkIYf8W8Di9pJpdUog2fMMo4k6fwf ApUCbdKZmdxqNnAnVA0o4oncxIR/Xn/br68AMCkwIDoQdPgBy2s0scuyO2oAmS/Nngb4 lvcCt2a9tXOGu6iFGqEMvMwHGo/U2pPTzhDZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=unbs8dWvq1covbhTb3gLR7s4umPpOU4ZCCCvGQxuVvG9TgkXe2St1Ec4d9qA+Adywe FLgH5ObQPrtsA4uG1gPqRAdY9EEq1b5dcBoufkEdYEn7cP6cvbNCHZdgOIelo6FlfiuG LancIuC12OJIczRXf/vKv5w1NYKaCQO0t/eN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.94.139 with SMTP id z11mr259289vcm.106.1245769985697; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:13:05 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300906230813u2c4149dbkf718e143387ae799@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] lu preti li'u From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6480dc87828af046d056d44 X-archive-position: 1876 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e6480dc87828af046d056d44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So, I have a couple of questions about lu ... li'u that I haven't found in the CLL yet. A: lo gerku goi ko'a cu barda B: .i la saimon cusku lu ko'a cu xunre li'u Now, does the {ko'a} in the quote that B is referring to refer to "lo gerku" or potentially something else entirely? Or does the presence of a {ko'a} without a {goi} assignment within that quote make the entire quote ungrammatical. Furthermore, if we have: A: la saimon cusku lu mi barda li'u is "mi" saimon or the speaker "A"? - Luke Bergen --0016e6480dc87828af046d056d44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, I have a couple of questions about lu ... li'u that I haven't f= ound in the CLL yet.

A: lo gerku goi ko'a cu barda
B: .i la s= aimon cusku lu ko'a cu xunre li'u

Now, does the {ko'a} i= n the quote that B is referring to refer to "lo gerku" or potenti= ally something else entirely?=A0 Or does the presence of a {ko'a} witho= ut a {goi} assignment within that quote make the entire quote ungrammatical= .

Furthermore, if we have:

A: la saimon cusku lu mi barda li'u=

is "mi" saimon or the speaker "A"?

- Luke Bergen
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