From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 27 12:32:56 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MKddv-0007gE-5s for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:32:55 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MKddq-0007ej-Jx for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:32:55 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so762745qwa.58 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:32:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m+C6NjoFDRsnZgVwHk8IRYsNzr8HVGpAz/9O8pJ17rU=; b=KKxrT4jjSyuYStR1GA+JSCjnNxZqE+TqsAclGa5QaOL/4FHDeV5wpNAczef8IElCHc fy2+L+5Gbz7p0qtudwMroGLC9wef9xfPge7qCzV9eRs3q0K6dWREC3iqXTZVIuLp5hyL t2kGsqj/6vEQEQmHfe3qwRdTnpQs+n599tDvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D3MiYjlpuOvyHJedlrn7sIYHf+2gDZcTihDGZWFx1bWr7+arTDkfYSbZBpnufVVX6T h/Z5aMIQqtA4/5SN+uYc/RNSTb7EriKhnhgjZwU8YrpXgjBp7ZZRxHKWFuKTQAcN+FNM y1rWTY17wLmOcq7iisEGJWGkR4zXKD+xA3Zog= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.45.198 with SMTP id g6mr3398874vcf.71.1246131169133; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:32:49 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300906271232y7e21b151o8d7bb72cc665add3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] xorlo meets voi From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1889 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners so I was just reading section 8.5 of the CLL and read this: "Relative clauses introduced by ``voi'' are restrictive, like those introduced by ``poi''. However, there is a fundamental difference between ``poi'' and ``voi'' relative clauses. A ``poi'' relative clause is said to be veridical, in the same sense that a description using ``lo'' or ``loi'' is: it is essential to the interpretation that the bridi actually be true". Now, given xorlo, how does poi/voi work? -- - Luke Bergen