From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 01 05:38:26 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLz50-0001Ev-6g for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:38:26 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLz4s-0001Dm-JZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:38:25 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090701123812041.VNLB19322@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:38:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E6A3837 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: VCCCCV Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:38:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <4de8c3930907010153w49b66f5cm9f2647cb8c9c499e@mail.gmail.com> <20090701095839.GA4362@nvg.org> In-Reply-To: <20090701095839.GA4362@nvg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907010838.08046.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 1915 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wednesday 01 July 2009 05:58:39 Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 10:53:27AM +0200, tijlan wrote: > > la jbovlaste nau na curmi tu'a lo fu'ivla pe tai zoi sanc. VCCCCV > > .sanc ( mu'a zo elktro ) ca lo nu ri se vasru lo la xorxes. fu'ivla > > liste > > la'e di'u la'a se krinu lo nu la vlatai noi pagbu la jbofi'e cu pe'a xusra > le du'u zoi ly elktro ly na lojbo valsi That's the damskrima bug. If I understand it, vlatai doesn't consider syllabic consonants to be syllabic if they're next to a vowel, and it doesn't consider a brivla valid if it has four non-syllabic consonants in a row, even if all the pairs are valid initial (e.g. matstraka). Pierre