From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 27 08:17:50 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVRxW-0000Vk-5o for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:17:50 -0700 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.150]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVRxS-0000VG-NP for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:17:49 -0700 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so1474079qwa.58 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:17:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bf3hd2ua/0Req1osA6LelUb+7t+QyCLSUmLrsZtbYjo=; b=Jkz0tckUQyh1C+YpTHt3V7Au+rkr/7N6iisWlHfpGLN4Wo3gdmTHqzybgiHCVA81Vg PGBHbqhwXWCmvUgW+olnbjdAiFqLwVCEqBWunY9gZQc379/xnHebIDaw2tfODBxQOCAX Bttypd2tIpCDtttVSu29EIJNKvTIoqIUkIfh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Om/9v0E29yZO10IF4w6t8iSf7yu60lLSsXN+lruuFC+GbY9rLA1FjotsEbEeAPNDHZ tVfF5PMBmlvNAWP+dn1hm9mWSXWDzQDZbVAjZF6xBrk9YcbbHzmRNaHoYJNcurrUwdMI 4MJnVwfj+aNOOtV9DL0ryAHe7LKeLSiTa5udk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.96.204 with SMTP id i12mr3516383vcn.94.1248707865366; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:17:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <163868.74620.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <5715b9300907261631t78611980ja39d24232e297906@mail.gmail.com> <163868.74620.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:17:45 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300907270817q18140997o1c3d895fca727fcf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zbasu, finti, and cupra From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64607c0be4f80046fb17403 X-archive-position: 1954 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e64607c0be4f80046fb17403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see, that makes sense. Thanks for your answers. - Luke Bergen On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > *From:* Luke Bergen > *To:* lojban-beginners@lojban.org > *Sent:* Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:31:59 PM > *Subject:* [lojban-beginners] zbasu, finti, and cupra > > I was working on learning the gismu when I found {cupra} which is defined > as: > cupra pra produce x1 produces > x2 [product] by process > x3 8f 22 (cf. > zbasu, farvi, gundi, jukpa) > > Now, how does this differ from {finti} and {zbasu}? > > Cars are assembled repetitively from sub-assemblies and componets (zbasu). > Gasoline/petrol is produced by a continuous process (cupra). > Paintings (usually) are created once only and are unique (finti). > > There are of course an infinite number of 'in-between' situations. The > challenge > then in lojban is the same as in anyother language. Either special terms > like > 'batch processing' are invented, or whole sentences are needed to > facilitate > understanding. > > mu'o mi'e andrus > > --0016e64607c0be4f80046fb17403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see, that makes sense.=A0 Thanks for your answers.

= - Luke Bergen


On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, A. PIE= KARSKI <totus@roge= rs.com> wrote:

From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org<= br>Sent: Sunday, July 26, = 2009 7:31:59 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners= ] zbasu, finti, and cupra

I was working on = learning the gismu when I found {cupra} which is defined as:
=A0cupra=A0= =A0=A0=A0 pra=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 produce=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 x1 produces= x2 [product] by process x3=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 8f=A0 22=A0=A0=A0 (cf. zbasu, farvi, gundi, juk= pa)

Now, how does this differ from {finti} and {zbasu}?

Cars are assembled repetitively from sub-assemblies and componets (= zbasu).
Gasoline/petrol is produced=A0by a continuous process (cupra).
Paintings (usually) are created once only and are unique (finti).
=A0
There are of course an infinite number of 'in-between' situ= ations.=A0 The challenge
then in lojban is the same as in anyother language.=A0 Either speci= al terms like
'batch processing' are invented, or whole sentences are nee= ded to facilitate
understanding.
=A0
mu'o mi'e andrus

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