From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 05 15:22:53 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYosn-0002cz-A6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.217.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYosi-0002cP-UV for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so1068396gxk.10 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=MHz/m2DMw8rizSghzj2of2lPF56vgU6z3UdgYdymQ7A=; b=bATVT2mJz468ThGNLLmnbz7EcDzglreCWEiiFmMhd4Ql5VFJ60/KIZIH0KehFGYPR/ F11tqAKH3ABoOeDfpbGL4IRVgFyvUPn0y3wOHUt2J2SXEnBpxhVX7LQirT/u4tzOtvCb BDv6l+MwbJNLR9gwO907sHx5yvH9bC+gXYKg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=kQn2Rnj5vsO8HOqY1RrFnjxvT2R9Wt+JCXEvfKkVPK4rVOhKIxgbzs5l1pNUrYearl gKeAXHucjCb+7M/38b5JH3FP2ejTsf+DPV92VQjpQBQRxzXLetidBjHp4O5vKH+dfGeP hGhLcHdZOFB+KqxZpcvRKuHHuo1k2NUDd1K6A= Received: by 10.90.87.19 with SMTP id k19mr4339433agb.55.1249510962642; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.111? (ip68-226-115-170.ph.ph.cox.net [68.226.115.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm513156aga.18.2009.08.05.15.22.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <11CC7260-CE8B-47BF-8748-D7596A48218D@choi.name> From: Joshua Choi To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Whitespace in written text Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:22:40 -0700 X-archive-position: 1991 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: joshua@choi.name Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hello everyone, I'd like to ask—seeing that written cmavo are often clustered and Lojban is intended to be unambiguous in speech—is whitespace completely optional and ignorable in written Lojban (with the exception of dipthongs)? For instance: la mari,as. ninmu .i dunda fi la .alis. fe le cukta .i ta blota .i ti cmalu be le ka canlu bei lo'e ckule be'o nixli be li mu bei merko be'o bo ckule la bryklyn. loi pemci la mela nu,IORK. prenu la jecta. ni'o lamari ,as .ninmu.idundafila.alis.felecukta.itablota.iticmalubelekacanlubeilo'eck ulebe'onixlibelimubeimerkobe'obockulelabryklyn .loipemcilamelanu,IORK.pren ulajecta.ni'o lamari,as.ninmu.idun dafila.alis.felec ukta.itabl ota.iticmalubel ekacanlub ei lo'eck ul eb e ' onix libelimubeim erkobe'obockulelabryklyn.loipemcila melanu,IORK.pren ulajecta . ni'o The latter two are a lot harder to read for humans, of course, but are they still valid Lojban, assuming that I didn't make a typo? (I've been trying out writing like this in a journal lately to force myself to carefully look at and parse what I write. It also makes it easier for me to read the text aloud, simulating the stream of sounds that I'd say or hear.)