From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 05 18:15:40 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYrZz-0000Ia-OB for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:15:39 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYrZw-0000IO-82 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:15:39 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n761FSMg006249 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:15:29 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n761FS1O026082 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:15:28 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:15:28 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Whitespace in written text Message-ID: <20090806011527.GA14910@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org References: <11CC7260-CE8B-47BF-8748-D7596A48218D@choi.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 1993 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 05 pi'e 08 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Kevin Reid .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > No. Word breaks are ambiguous (I don't have an example handy) unless you > either use " " or "." between words, or mark the penultimate-syllable > stress on brivla. .skamyxatra To clarify: You may not insert spaces or pauses into the middle of words. Whitespace between two words may only be omitted if the first word is not a {brivla} or its emphasized syllable is clearly marked. Thus, you can omit spaces between {cmavo}, {cmene}, and {cmavo} & {cmene}, and you may prepend a {cmavo} or {cmene} to a {brivla} without any ambiguity (to experts of Lojban, at least; omitting spaces before {brivla} is virtually never done), but if you append anything to a {brivla}, that {brivla}'s emphasis must be marked. Also, mandatory pauses (e.g., after {cmene} or before words beginning with vowels) must *always* be written as a period, though a period next to whitespace is technically redundant and can be omitted without any loss of ambiguity (though I'm not sure whether such practice is officially valid or not). mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- va'o lonu da'i noda va bartu kei ma pu va savru