From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 17 06:11:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md1zU-0005dW-2r for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:11:12 -0700 Received: from lethe.anno.name ([94.23.56.58] helo=mail.dircksen.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md1zN-0005cy-Ex for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:11:11 -0700 Received: from [192.168.2.106] (p4FE452EA.dip.t-dialin.net [79.228.82.234]) by mail.dircksen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0B0147246A for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:11:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A89568D.60904@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:09:33 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090701) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: greetings References: <52a782220908170147k6598dc71n390352d283f6ea06@mail.gmail.com> <200908170835.43070.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <200908170835.43070.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9E250707EDB66ACE51E480F4" X-archive-position: 2032 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9E250707EDB66ACE51E480F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pierre Abbat wrote: > "hello, my name is rolf" is "coi mi'e rolf". I don't know how to say "h= ow do=20 > you do?"; the literal translation is "do gasnu ta'i ma?", but that woul= d=20 > elicit the reply "How do I do *what*?" "How are you" could be "do mo", = but=20 > that could also mean "What are you?" or "What do you do?" >=20 > mu'o mi'e pier. Heya, I think you missed the point a bit. He was clearly and most probably also= consciously asking not for a literal translation, but "how to do basic greetings", which of course is a question about the customs of the lojban= ic community. The first example you gave, {coi mi'e rolf} is still correct and {do mo} = is, in fact, what we say in place of "how do you do?" (even though "how do you d= o?" is not a question as far as I know) and it's not a bad thing that it can als= o mean "what do you do?" or "what are you?", because the common lojbanists cares= that much more about their peers ;) mu'o mi'e timos --------------enig9E250707EDB66ACE51E480F4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqJVpMACgkQus6NTCHpCEBERgCdETUCpVgbUVuCxn7SBEtpWgHf q5YAnjB3snZO00DJl2MffKlKaLmkXff6 =FZdu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9E250707EDB66ACE51E480F4--