From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 17 06:52:50 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2dm-0000xm-7P for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:52:50 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com ([209.85.220.218]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2di-0000wp-T2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:52:49 -0700 Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2455951fxm.14 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:52:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9oFvJKVdwBzY2ns8rB1Z0ZY8i39zdgnKUDx7HJZAa2g=; b=C1cAkLoconY9ZevH9z2IOX9nSujgPf6LfyRGUtN+SymmWdL2HR6pATbVrqv5LyeX/n CkRnThj42eLefSDqmxUdjMMh8xSQNO2a5PfGU4YYvoUQ95Ufx4u4MgR1ccOcLnZSVa+F jEbyLKItQL5zMDJjc6dBvdkbG8xMAy5LMXgJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=m2UFtyyQpociLac8965W0asz0Z0i5jiYi65TC/nWyZdQP8e2QULs3Mw10ji/8KrAXb ODIKzstKILVG21DRh9mBCreQmiIq+v1ZHFH+jBZnppuUsy7M/SxnzXZ4tE/gbjL1nhIq /IiEvHIqNpWSZd1q01zEPTzjwAxDPwNSUMbSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.198 with SMTP id e6mr2761514bke.148.1250517160260; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:52:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A89568D.60904@perpetuum-immobile.de> References: <52a782220908170147k6598dc71n390352d283f6ea06@mail.gmail.com> <200908170835.43070.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4A89568D.60904@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:52:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: greetings From: Sam Bader To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be2541f7708047156b7db X-archive-position: 2034 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: awesomeegghead@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0015174be2541f7708047156b7db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *--- coi .i xu lu coi mi'e rolf .i pei li'u xamgu fi lo te rinsa mu'o mi'e .semiul. *--- Hi, Is {coi mi'e rolf .i pei} a fine greeting? -Sam* *--- On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Timo Paulssen < timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote: > Pierre Abbat wrote: > > "hello, my name is rolf" is "coi mi'e rolf". I don't know how to say "how > do > > you do?"; the literal translation is "do gasnu ta'i ma?", but that would > > elicit the reply "How do I do *what*?" "How are you" could be "do mo", > but > > that could also mean "What are you?" or "What do you do?" > > > > mu'o mi'e pier. > > > Heya, > > I think you missed the point a bit. He was clearly and most probably also > consciously asking not for a literal translation, but "how to do basic > greetings", which of course is a question about the customs of the lojbanic > community. > > The first example you gave, {coi mi'e rolf} is still correct and {do mo} > is, in > fact, what we say in place of "how do you do?" (even though "how do you > do?" is > not a question as far as I know) and it's not a bad thing that it can also > mean > "what do you do?" or "what are you?", because the common lojbanists cares > that > much more about their peers ;) > > mu'o mi'e timos > > --0015174be2541f7708047156b7db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---
coi
.i xu lu coi mi'e rolf .i pei li'u xamgu fi lo te rinsa
mu'o mi'e .semiul.
---
Hi,
Is {coi mi'e rolf .i pei} a fine greeting?
-Sam
= ---

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:09 AM, = Timo Paulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
Pierre Abbat wrote:
> "hello, my name is rolf" is "coi mi'e rolf". I= don't know how to say "how do
> you do?"; the literal translation is "do gasnu ta'i ma?&= quot;, but that would
> elicit the reply "How do I do *what*?" "How are you&quo= t; could be "do mo", but
> that could also mean "What are you?" or "What do you do= ?"
>
> mu'o mi'e pier.


Heya,

I think you missed the point a bit. He was clearly and most probably also consciously asking not for a literal translation, but "how to do basic=
greetings", which of course is a question about the customs of the loj= banic
community.

The first example you gave, {coi mi'e rolf} is still correct and {do mo= } is, in
fact, what we say in place of "how do you do?" (even though "= ;how do you do?" is
not a question as far as I know) and it's not a bad thing that it can a= lso mean
"what do you do?" or "what are you?", because the commo= n lojbanists cares that
much more about their peers ;)

mu'o mi'e timos


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