From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 17 07:02:55 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2nW-0002EG-0U for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:02:54 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f208.google.com ([209.85.218.208]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2nN-00029k-Hg for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:02:53 -0700 Received: by bwz4 with SMTP id 4so2372400bwz.0 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:02:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UqaHBXNbRbcMYgDIKMuqCP8I2nC0NmbssgNZDlTGLTI=; b=K9t6CjAJhxXKNPU3yU9aCiRfrYAo2myZ727TESEzPBybALw5jZnxRVi3B0udBnY4YT TW9Uy528ym7wweTaN6MTgOjy6z8104Z5Dwjw6/Uy8nF0Wmijg6y4AvLGQwAndcIFl/h4 lJQlXuWn9Id+FvqTxrm/emSt7OurZ8IZnPGj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qYL6UbucVIEM9y4Fpt88ACA2ZV02oAwGzbQ+PCaX7f9bCEUefpEasd2wkjmh3msHMk 1gIJgY6bQhAv/V8npdm0AvR4/XD0ATm9BDXW/0k2AIHSgqpUVdi5uNObzIX1vEQQcDr4 m9cFCJLhXWjNfeHuqBHgextFUyovqKvp4JFXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.3.208 with SMTP id 16mr848103fao.76.1250517757559; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:02:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A89568D.60904@perpetuum-immobile.de> References: <52a782220908170147k6598dc71n390352d283f6ea06@mail.gmail.com> <200908170835.43070.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4A89568D.60904@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:02:37 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2c31ff75f8e08565 Message-ID: <4de8c3930908170702p3dba7011t6ba828113b8fd79e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: greetings From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 2035 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners 2009/8/17 Timo Paulssen : > Pierre Abbat wrote: >> "hello, my name is rolf" is "coi mi'e rolf". I don't know how to say "how do >> you do?"; the literal translation is "do gasnu ta'i ma?", but that would >> elicit the reply "How do I do *what*?" "How are you" could be "do mo", but >> that could also mean "What are you?" or "What do you do?" >> >> mu'o mi'e pier. > > > Heya, > > I think you missed the point a bit. He was clearly and most probably also > consciously asking not for a literal translation, but "how to do basic > greetings", which of course is a question about the customs of the lojbanic > community. > > The first example you gave, {coi mi'e rolf} is still correct and {do mo} is, in > fact, what we say in place of "how do you do?" (even though "how do you do?" is > not a question as far as I know) and it's not a bad thing that it can also mean > "what do you do?" or "what are you?", because the common lojbanists cares that > much more about their peers ;) > > mu'o mi'e timos How about: coi mi'e rolf doi o'e or, if the speaker is rather more interested to openly hear from the other person in return: coi mi'e rolf be'e o'e mu'o mi'e tijlan