From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 24 17:05:47 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MfjXn-000890-5n for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:05:47 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.212.179]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MfjXk-00088d-K4 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:05:47 -0700 Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so2215283vws.25 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:05:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Mv6M2n3KDVSO/nwQOga7zEHi8jXC2ZtWLYzfllqjtb4=; b=p+y7JjufcJcZ4vJfHudolPwx+qoZwoe15hy1sg+GvA27cEv0vqG6sg85BbjbB+q5Lv PvVGxLWyEoG0cyh1KfCzCLxcwQ0yaY5ywxsgmSJpFDu7ZCYDE1+hon+V0fdro7ES/cSt 0fNvPaF75vdea1OoPoRlGEUuBDLVAehzvhet0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b/wK5UrYa9pXU0JBX3Swdbg4w2K264TkAmxX3WD3B/MgVIXiATlRSbo4KBLiLnfmNW NQbRr0EkRu4AjP9XDrltnUWUkmTv5OtCe2VcFKi5GBHEHFDr4fngb+/7un09wHR/r25i DvWWzqEBpLTeeOUYholUXEkdQ7aly5k8HLo3s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.89.85 with SMTP id d21mr6774058vcm.77.1251158738404; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300908241705j3bc1f118u7582440e2cd54e2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] "don't do that" From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363105572907270471ec1893 X-archive-position: 2100 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016363105572907270471ec1893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit so, last night chatting in the irc channel got me thinking about common phrases that a lojbanic parent might say often enough to their child. Given that, one that I came up with that I couldn't figure out a good lojban equivalent of is "don't do that". In lojban it seems like this might be something like {ko na cu tu'a ta} but I'm not sure you can do things like that with tu'a. Basically I want something that means {you imperitive, do not now or in the future do the event }. With {tu'a} we can say {meh, the abstraction that you know I mean when I say ____} but how would you (or can you) do that with pointing words like {ti}, {ta}, {tu}? And if not, how would you say what I am trying to say? Given that the child may have already ceased doing what (s)he has been doing or may still be doing it. maybe another way might be {ko na co'e zukte}? --0016363105572907270471ec1893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so, last night chatting in the irc channel got me thinking about common phr= ases that a lojbanic parent might say often enough to their child.=A0 Given= that, one that I came up with that I couldn't figure out a good lojban= equivalent of is "don't do that".

In lojban it seems like this might be something like {ko na cu tu'a= ta} but I'm not sure you can do things like that with tu'a.=A0 Bas= ically I want something that means {you imperitive, do not now or in the fu= ture do the event <that>}.=A0 With {tu'a} we can say {meh, the ab= straction that you know I mean when I say ____} but how would you (or can y= ou) do that with pointing words like {ti}, {ta}, {tu}?=A0 And if not, how w= ould you say what I am trying to say?=A0 Given that the child may have alre= ady ceased doing what (s)he has been doing or may still be doing it.

maybe another way might be {ko na co'e zukte}?
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