From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 26 16:08:40 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MgRbc-0000dI-G4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:08:40 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.212.193]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MgRbX-0000c3-HH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:08:40 -0700 Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so492568vws.28 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:08:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=o3+0zorQL4G3+uo2CBvrK3Ymvv6hKGT4kEYN8lOW2H8=; b=egul4EjmpLzeLO3iNE/kp4KWPMzl8EHl0eboxxtGRh6IMwBc3h9OXXLbc/S/LG5G8L UiJsSbffznb9jpiSLJngKps01QIFL2yEJK+k3W0FIVh0/usWe2YtpmU1OGkl1T16B6Ee FncoTU796dowkAFGzA2PF4AEBN2uMtXUh+Sdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=E4mRwCAzbMOzDGCeTFOimLf8j3+Ld5GTl+dQS6iru++4yJ1bC0TMYNUqUs3WA38ZAW hG5kZFQ55KpXXdS1LJO6xu1uTMJwZrcXr039cNXybC+Ashddu32HSViXu4fpcO0TUWml rjy70HiZTdUOJR7oTNAARgA8JUF6u7QzWiQoY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.79.134 with SMTP id p6mr10329832vck.5.1251328109198; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:08:29 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300908261608j3fe3d0a0g2a6bd54a976d2518@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] jai From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6460790723e990472138784 X-archive-position: 2118 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e6460790723e990472138784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I have had this concept {jai} explained to me at least 4 times now. Each time I leave the chat room/mailing list/wherever honestly believing that "now I get it" only to find a couple days later that it's just as foggy as it was before the explanation. Could I get one last explaniation that explains the theory and a bunch of practical examples for the different uses? Could these examples have as little other grammer as possible to cloud the usage of {jai}? Additionally, how vital is {jai} to becoming fluent in lojban? Hypothetically, if I never did end up "getting it", how badly would that effect my "fluency" in lojban? --0016e6460790723e990472138784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I have had this concept {jai} explained to me at least 4 times now.=A0 E= ach time I leave the chat room/mailing list/wherever honestly believing tha= t "now I get it" only to find a couple days later that it's j= ust as foggy as it was before the explanation.=A0 Could I get one last expl= aniation that explains the theory and a bunch of practical examples for the= different uses?=A0 Could these examples have as little other grammer as po= ssible to cloud the usage of {jai}?

Additionally, how vital is {jai} to becoming fluent in lojban?=A0 Hypot= hetically, if I never did end up "getting it", how badly would th= at effect my "fluency" in lojban?
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