From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 01 06:03:23 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiT19-0005gJ-1D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:03:23 -0700 Received: from mail-yw0-f201.google.com ([209.85.211.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiT15-0005fg-T0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:03:22 -0700 Received: by ywh39 with SMTP id 39so7357466ywh.32 for ; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:03:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JXI9Qua1T6HIWkMv2ivWlNRcIsuDTwqdoSgtDNCJJTc=; b=Hz2oFGEiBDVmm4Y9hkOYfzMOqYkM68kQVMZET5H4CcNLy6cH4hCBjqI1W5ftalzaNV uYlWoanWMrVxQhFQwbEEY1MI1UMGGsNMgEC2Bgg7sZ7ZMFsWo3BtEyRle/bIS5urlRc1 LC4LQkY6Mbo4yR+aNVy2SYGYdtbyDtA/wR200= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JfWB2v1OraRjoeJndAWH9nZTZuuqmNMTQx3Eg145NK0wJgULlR6RZ2m3ZFvCb1UldG ZLR3HXkW5W/kDxFxh6h+Ys/u8wpZDQUgZ/VtFOAJKXu1x/f2t5qO9NtGbPrghSOtiPwi s4snx/m/LpCq4cL43qmX14VVzCmGNPPyaFmuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.60.1 with SMTP id i1mr7448468ana.11.1251810192268; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:03:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090901124839.GH5073@nvg.org> References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED82B1@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> <20090901124839.GH5073@nvg.org> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 08:03:12 -0500 Message-ID: <38c99b470909010603p681367fbrb340fa0464a183f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: klingon swears From: Carlos Gabriel Quiroz To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64098b2d61c88047283c538 X-archive-position: 2146 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: quirozom@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016e64098b2d61c88047283c538 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 haha This email exchange is a funny way to start my day. p.s. Newbies are particularly palatable with some BBQ sauce. 2009/9/1 Arnt Richard Johansen > On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:10:39PM +0100, Michael Eaton wrote: > > Lojban <> Klingon. > > > > Perhaps a Klingon board or mailing list, and maybe a little research, > would serve you better. > > Hey, no reason to bite the newbies. > > Sarah Leach: you probably want to subscribe to tlhingan-hol instead. > > The rest of you: Robin runs both the Klingon and Lojban mailing lists. > http://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/ has a prominent link to > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi, which is used to join any > mailing list run from lojban.org, including this one. > > I presume the source of the confusion is that the name of the Klingon > mailing list is "tlhingan-hol" (not immediately recognizable to someone who > doesn't know any Klingon), while this mailing list is the only in the list > that contains the word "beginners". This is poor usability, and should be > fixed. Might it not be possible to make Ecartis display only the > Klingon-related lists to people arriving from kli.org? > > -- > Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ > As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it > wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had > to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized > that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in > finding mistakes in my own programs. > -- Maurice Wilkes discovers debugging, 1949 > > > > --0016e64098b2d61c88047283c538 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha This email exchange is a funny way to start my day.


p.s. Newbies are particularly palatable with some BBQ sauce= .=A0


2009/9/1 Arnt Richard Joh= ansen <arj@nvg.org&= gt;
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 0= 1:10:39PM +0100, Michael Eaton wrote:
> Lojban <> Klingon.
>
> Perhaps a Klingon board or mailing list, and maybe a little research, = would serve you better.

Hey, no reason to bite the newbies.

Sarah Leach: you probably want to subscribe to tlhingan-hol instead.

The rest of you: Robin runs both the Klingon and Lojban mailing lists. http://www.kli.o= rg/tlhIngan-Hol/ has a prominent link to http://www.digitalkingdom.or= g/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi, which is used to join any mailing list run from lojban.org, including this= one.

I presume the source of the confusion is that the name of the Klingon maili= ng list is "tlhingan-hol" (not immediately recognizable to someon= e who doesn't know any Klingon), while this mailing list is the only in= the list that contains the word "beginners". This is poor usabil= ity, and should be fixed. Might it not be possible to make Ecartis display = only the Klingon-related lists to people arriving from kli.org?

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Arnt Richard Johansen =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0http://arj.nvg= .org/
As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it
wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized
that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in
finding mistakes in my own programs.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Maurice Wilkes disco= vers debugging, 1949




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