From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 01 06:11:25 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiT8v-0006Lq-H0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:11:25 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.212.193]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiT8s-0006LR-CZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:11:25 -0700 Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so2839964vws.28 for ; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7qiH/ReE2kxWl6I5oyL9oqcIEoSv/Ez2kTf9G1dXMD0=; b=C8n8gjCQgt+67n57Krd+d2Gl2yiZMOsWpMHoJFaCHiF1N91XiWz71bW+xD52KcSxGX LhbdKb5rBzn3UWhwTr/Pzc+6FgmGF3yN+NfYcgyLm91MO9sirV816eEiQJrhTf0IkS+z KSXDl7SVg425zfJzr9ZvzQVh5puXSlqMu15DY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HHOOEeKwuNttC/wkaKQOlvTvLREpMfHqT9ZohgKQ2rHyPu7G6DtzBLnF9wfaPuEjD9 u9sZibrWEp77zo57goFwy3wfrcQ+6yiIKyoHTUhxCboElfI9O7tqSclfVOV+TyQlUH8M QMmJ/99cKXIjLB99qfstk+7yUpln851rqE4Fk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.78.218 with SMTP id m26mr8555228vck.30.1251810676080; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:11:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96f789a60909010445h24c5c45eva2e8e15d6ccd85ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300908251541m363ca5ecqd59d5542cefafb29@mail.gmail.com> <425e4ac20908272034r32b74bc8o5f7892ea65a0ef7f@mail.gmail.com> <8905c87a0908311450ve432a04wba9c9cecaccd57f3@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60909010445h24c5c45eva2e8e15d6ccd85ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:11:16 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909010611x23029ed8g132d8d06de9cc52@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: as though From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636284fd8ac7f82047283e233 X-archive-position: 2147 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --001636284fd8ac7f82047283e233 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hmmm, all of this originally started because I heard a song by the killers "smile like you mean it". Which, now that I think about it, is saying something even more complex than "run like you're being chased by a tiger" because "you mean it" is not really an event of you doing something and it has a pro-sumti back to... "it"? Thanks for all the great answers, now I'll know how to say things like "run like you're being chased by a tiger". But now I'm wondering, what would be the lojbanic version of the colloquial phrase "smile like you mean it" (and please feel free to abandon the actual words and use attitudinals etc... if it makes it easier to get at the meaning). On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Judson Lester wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Stela Selckiku > wrote: > >> > >> lo nu ko bajra cu simsa lo nu da'i do tirxu se jersi > >> Make an event of you running be similar to a hypothetical event of you > >> being tiger chased. > > > > Would it be grammatical (or appropriate) to say {lo nu ko bajra cu simsa > le > > nu da'i do tirxu se jersi}, since the event being compared is one the > > speaker has in mind, not an actual event? > > > > > > > > Yes, that works too-- "Make your running similar to you being chased > by a tiger". > > --gejyspa > > > > --001636284fd8ac7f82047283e233 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm, all of this originally started because I heard a song by the killers = "smile like you mean it".=A0 Which, now that I think about it, is= saying something even more complex than "run like you're being ch= ased by a tiger" because "you mean it" is not really an even= t of you doing something and it has a pro-sumti back to... "it"?<= br>
Thanks for all the great answers, now I'll know how to say things l= ike "run like you're being chased by a tiger".

But no= w I'm wondering, what would be the lojbanic version of the colloquial p= hrase "smile like you mean it" (and please feel free to abandon t= he actual words and use attitudinals etc... if it makes it easier to get at= the meaning).

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Michael Turn= iansky <mturn= iansky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Judson L= ester<nyarly@gmail.com> wrote= :
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> lo nu ko bajra cu simsa lo nu da'i do tirxu se jersi
>> Make an event of you running be similar to a hypothetical event of= you
>> being tiger chased.
>
> Would it be grammatical (or appropriate) to say {lo nu ko bajra cu sim= sa le
> nu da'i do tirxu se jersi}, since the event being compared is one = the
> speaker has in mind, not an actual event?
>
>
>

=A0Yes, that works too-- "Make your running similar to yo= u being chased
by a tiger".

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa




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