From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Sep 01 07:41:03 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiUXd-0002x8-UE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:41:02 -0700 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MiUXa-0002wN-5P for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:41:01 -0700 Received: by ewy12 with SMTP id 12so27710ewy.0 for ; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JgwdQfOwIS7JDN7Zm2DTsD6dpF0IL1mgAZSUhLR9m+8=; b=KrQH0GoSkTDZNJDp+iGyJEPqJTIEwx1RWNfrILr77MSbGQVSoZopuWF2OYRnXX001p Fm+5YIiF0+2RXs9a9RKseA9uRnIk5wCAmYQ/Nkf0IJGaxyvgRFob56c+IwORtVhqSTG5 JRo9EiJVANY29tGMKAGlO7P4JL2M3KcmT8zXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FrUM7Zi8cSBxRrnuu/zUg9tJLen8bPBqS0Smf6xAB+aeAvNXN3Mg1kxVF8GJQCtySY hFAIcmXCHbUzx3If0jFnBCLy5ubA+m3hd55MN7DBavJTrCIANims2TkZju20Lbi7IbPR +UOFzHo/7zsTqTlnC3K5bxXMOLOz6K0uHezyg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.80.17 with SMTP id d17mr6285424ebb.67.1251816050842; Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:40:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <38c99b470909010603p681367fbrb340fa0464a183f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED82B1@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> <20090901124839.GH5073@nvg.org> <38c99b470909010603p681367fbrb340fa0464a183f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:40:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4643bbcd0909010740r2a870d31g855a699792772f97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: klingon swears From: Sara Brand To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdc7408fc8904728523aa X-archive-position: 2149 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: seraneko@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0015174bdc7408fc8904728523aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And here I had thought someone actually wanted to translate klingon into lojban. That would be amazingly geeky and awesome. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Carlos Gabriel Quiroz wrote: > haha This email exchange is a funny way to start my day. > > p.s. Newbies are particularly palatable with some BBQ sauce. > > > 2009/9/1 Arnt Richard Johansen > > On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:10:39PM +0100, Michael Eaton wrote: >> > Lojban <> Klingon. >> > >> > Perhaps a Klingon board or mailing list, and maybe a little research, >> would serve you better. >> >> Hey, no reason to bite the newbies. >> >> Sarah Leach: you probably want to subscribe to tlhingan-hol instead. >> >> The rest of you: Robin runs both the Klingon and Lojban mailing lists. >> http://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/ has a prominent link to >> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi, which is used to join any >> mailing list run from lojban.org, including this one. >> >> I presume the source of the confusion is that the name of the Klingon >> mailing list is "tlhingan-hol" (not immediately recognizable to someone who >> doesn't know any Klingon), while this mailing list is the only in the list >> that contains the word "beginners". This is poor usability, and should be >> fixed. Might it not be possible to make Ecartis display only the >> Klingon-related lists to people arriving from kli.org? >> >> -- >> Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ >> As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it >> wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had >> to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized >> that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in >> finding mistakes in my own programs. >> -- Maurice Wilkes discovers debugging, 1949 >> >> >> >> > --0015174bdc7408fc8904728523aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And here I had thought someone actually wanted to translate klingon into lo= jban. That would be amazingly geeky and awesome.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Carlos Gabriel Quiroz <quirozom@gmail.com> wrote:
haha This email exchange is a funny way to = start my day.


p.s. Newbies are particular= ly palatable with some BBQ sauce.=A0


2009/9/1 Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.= org>

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:10:39PM +010= 0, Michael Eaton wrote:
> Lojban <> Klingon.
>
> Perhaps a Klingon board or mailing list, and maybe a little research, = would serve you better.

Hey, no reason to bite the newbies.

Sarah Leach: you probably want to subscribe to tlhingan-hol instead.

The rest of you: Robin runs both the Klingon and Lojban mailing lists. http://www.kli.o= rg/tlhIngan-Hol/ has a prominent link to http://www.digitalkingdom.or= g/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi, which is used to join any mailing list run from lojban.org, including this= one.

I presume the source of the confusion is that the name of the Klingon maili= ng list is "tlhingan-hol" (not immediately recognizable to someon= e who doesn't know any Klingon), while this mailing list is the only in= the list that contains the word "beginners". This is poor usabil= ity, and should be fixed. Might it not be possible to make Ecartis display = only the Klingon-related lists to people arriving from kli.org?

--
Arnt Richard Johansen =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0http://arj.nvg= .org/
As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it
wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized
that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in
finding mistakes in my own programs.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Maurice Wilkes disco= vers debugging, 1949





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