From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 02 05:57:30 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MipP0-0002Ok-Es for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:57:30 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f193.google.com ([209.85.212.193]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MipOw-0002ML-Nn for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:57:30 -0700 Received: by vws31 with SMTP id 31so724922vws.28 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:57:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3PKaeKBBsxoBrqHNd02CIzmMZ96mPTaknzQEytmB9o4=; b=U6ofy/Rp7Gry4OG6DBHvzHDkHEtWOkt340NfJyu/Pdu4/w0200ne9Y8QG2n7ccKwQ5 rHKIBKFa1zGoWHJfAla3JgOZFD6xiDD4VIO64DWnjNwjroGY2t9pEQ44ceXvDRDfbpSa VzQUon8zoS0/sikTrg3FyS+MzlshraW7VknOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b6jN5H9STK5os7JrsUuKWFESQh0pTL8JaOh8ayXy9HMLbolw8V7994PgOgY3n6sTuU lq2c4BZPxnU2LcXx+xUOkYJwdmO2NSZBGgnzx3L1J34vL+fwjfiWYiNvwpeJvDi2r3ym APKnT2Ik8Amv80jIPyY0M/UouXcy9Qio02pqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.89.77 with SMTP id d13mr10706179vcm.91.1251896240445; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:57:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED82DE@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> References: <9DE5DB0988ED6C448E606734F5030D381BED82DE@bbcmbmx01.blackpool.gov.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:57:20 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300909020557w5ea91058gfc0b3f386ebc6837@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: SRSLY, this hasn't been about Klingon for a while, now. From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b81f8b51913047297cecd X-archive-position: 2175 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0016363b81f8b51913047297cecd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ok, this whole starting a new thread but replying to both the new and the old thread thing is making me look foolish. I just replied in the other thread with exactly "hence 'tend to' :-p". Damnit michael! :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Michael Eaton < michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk> wrote: > Hence 'tend to' ;0). > > To be honest, Lojban is a very attractive language for someone familiar > with programming, at least from my point of view, due to its logical rules > and construction. The syntax is very absolute, and there is minimal > interpretation of intended meaning compared to 'natural' languages. It's > very hard to misunderstand a properly constructed statement in Lojban, as > opposed to the vast amount of ambiguity in english, for instance. /ramble > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto: > lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org]*On Behalf Of *Sara Brand > *Sent:* 02 September 2009 13:18 > *To:* lojban-beginners@lojban.org > *Subject:* [lojban-beginners] Re: klingon swears > > Not all of us do. I'm only barely following this discussion. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Michael Eaton < > michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk> wrote: > >> Ladies and gentlemen, I think we now have compelling evidence that >> purveyors of Lojban tend to have a coding background. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org >> [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org]On Behalf Of Michael >> Turniansky >> Sent: 02 September 2009 12:45 >> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org >> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: klingon swears >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Michael >> Eaton wrote: >> > Also applies in SQL, where I use it most. To my knowledge, <> is the >> more 'common' cousin to != >> > >> >> > >> > <> meaning 'not equals' has been around at least since 1983 >> > (Locomotive BASIC and IIRC all popular BASICs written after then) >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_equal >> >> >> >> >> In AutoIT "<>" is used to mean what "!=" means in java/c/etc... >> >> >> >> I could be wrong but I believe the same is true of InstallScript >> >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inequation >> >> >> >> I think I've also seen "~" (tilde) and a NOT sign (small sideways "L") >> used >> >> before "=" to make it mean "not equal to". >> >> >> I suppose I could chime in that in MUMPS, the not equal operation is >> '=, but I won't. (But then again, all statements I make are a lie) >> >> --gejyspa >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ >> This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as >> part of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. >> >> >> http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ >> This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as >> part of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. >> >> >> ******************************************************************************See >> the Blackpool You Tube video aimed at attracting French visitors by clicking >> this link http://www.visitblackpool.com/jetaime****************************************************************************** >> > > > > http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/ > > This message has been scanned for inappropriate or malicious content as > part of the Council's e-mail and Internet policies. > > > > Click hereto report this email as spam. > > --0016363b81f8b51913047297cecd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, this whole starting a new thread but replying to both the new and the o= ld thread thing is making me look foolish.=A0 I just replied in the other t= hread with exactly "hence 'tend to' :-p".=A0 Damnit micha= el!=A0 :)

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Michael Eato= n <m= ichael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk> wrote:
Henc= e 'tend to' ;0).
=A0
To b= e honest, Lojban is a very attractive language for someone familiar=20 with programming, at least from my point of view, due to its logical rules = and=20 construction. The syntax is very absolute, and there is minimal interpretat= ion=20 of intended meaning compared to 'natural' languages. It's very = hard to=20 misunderstand a properly constructed statement in Lojban, as opposed to the= vast=20 amount of ambiguity in english, for instance. /ramble
-----Ori= ginal Message-----
From:=20 l= ojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org=20 [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org]On Behalf Of Sara=20 Brand
Sent: 02 September 2009 13:18
To:=20 lojban-b= eginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: klingon= =20 swears

Not all of us do. I'm only barely followin= g this=20 discussion.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Michael Eaton= =20 <m= ichael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk>=20 wrote:
Ladies=20 and gentlemen, I think we now have compelling evidence that purveyors o= f=20 Lojban tend to have a coding background.

-----Original Message-----
From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojba= n.org
[mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org]On=20 Behalf Of Michael
Turniansky
Sent: 02 September 2009 12:45
To:= lojban-be= ginners@lojban.org
Subject:=20 [lojban-beginners] Re: klingon swears


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Michael
Eaton<michael.eaton@blackpo= ol.gov.uk>=20 wrote:
> Also applies in SQL, where I use it most. To my knowledg= e,=20 <> is the more 'common' cousin to !=3D
>

>= ;
>=20 <> meaning 'not equals' has been around at least since 19= 83
>=20 (Locomotive BASIC and IIRC all popular BASICs written after=20 then)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_equal

>&= gt;
>>=20 In AutoIT "<>" is used to mean what "!=3D" me= ans in=20 java/c/etc...
>>
>> I could be wrong but I believe th= e=20 same is true of InstallScript
>>
>>
>> http://en.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Inequation
>>
>>=20 I think I've also seen "~" (tilde) and a NOT sign (small = sideways "L")=20 used
>> before "=3D" to make it mean "not equal= =20 to".


=A0I suppose I could chime in that in MUMPS, the n= ot=20 equal operation is
'=3D, but I won't. =A0(But then again, al= l statements=20 I make are a lie)

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