From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 05 12:27:53 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mk0vR-0002r1-G6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:27:53 -0700 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mk0vM-0002q7-J6 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:27:53 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n85JRg04006821 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:27:42 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id n85JRg6E015190 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:27:42 GMT Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:27:41 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Multiple masses/sets Message-ID: <20090905192740.GA24817@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org References: <9ada8ecd0909051216g184556d0n4ddf35fad07f785b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9ada8ecd0909051216g184556d0n4ddf35fad07f785b@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 2199 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 05 pi'e 09 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Squark Rabinovich .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > What if I want to speak of two groups of men carrying pianos independantly? > Is there a way to refer to several masses? What about several sets? .skamyxatra Under xorlo (the revised system of semantics for the {gadri}), just put an outer quantifier in front of the mass/set, e.g., "{re lei nanmu}" refers to two groups of men which act independently and may or may not be completely distinct, and likewise for "{re le'i nanmu}." See (among other places) for more information. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ko na xalni