From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Sep 06 17:40:19 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkSHL-0003k2-6U for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:40:19 -0700 Received: from mail-iw0-f196.google.com ([209.85.223.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MkSHD-0003it-9n for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:40:18 -0700 Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so699721iwn.25 for ; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3LENNtz2KFQl5MF41p47yLR8VgAkFZV24z7LIoP/Igs=; b=N8HbksKaF6NYDjcbIdbV9GDTxCacfePFfitO3eQGgNevWTEzZFVupEkH7E1cYN4jb0 67jIYfmgQAWqa62mBsSAbkOGZp6tP4q8B3RtpQMYTaXCbN65XKa0V/4IxRt9tghpyguw qECR6m57nbRqJ+F9eVGafUgkj4rJ/iEzlh2kU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F93Zj9RGNv5muaWIt+3HeokGXGIrHY5DrTGm4Jy/3DzFCNKQLrnrL8/hzH2E+p/I5+ h0rYdbPlQkOwWP+de6zdi/f8JmqAfqg4QesisTcfeOxvmOCx8Yo89kzu6boNnjtH1wme 6Fg2wjpnJKYg8u7Z2q/zJZLb0gKa282zGn4SA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.40.227 with SMTP id l35mr11019613ibe.28.1252284005266; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:40:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300909061025w39db3696k72c6511910cc454a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300909061025w39db3696k72c6511910cc454a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:40:05 -0400 Message-ID: <425e4ac20909061740w3e25dc9dl774fa067f00b850a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I remember From: Stela Selckiku To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2221 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: selckiku@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > how would you say "I remembered to say 'hello everybody'"? > > It seems like morji would be good but that's more like "x1 remembers > fact x2."  not "x1 remembers to do x2'. I might say "mi morji fi le nu mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u", I remembered something (implied: that it was important and that I should do it) about the event of me saying "coi ro do". That's ambiguous though as to the relationship between the remembering and the saying. Perhaps "mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u ki'u le nu morji", I said "coi ro do" because of remembering, that's slightly clearer. I also think it's a good opportunity for some specific lujvo. There's two good rafsi for "morji", "moj" and "mo'i". We can base a lot of different interesting kinds of remembering on "-mo'i"! I'd like one that means "to suddenly remember something you had forgotten"-- perhaps za'e "sukmo'i"? Anyway, for remembering to do something, hmm, "mojgau" is taken, so perhaps za'e "mojyzu'e" (morji zei zukte)? Or, oh, hey, looks like Pierre came up with "zukmo'i" for just this in 2002! So then it would be, "mi zukmo'i le nu mi cusku lu coi ro do li'u". mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o